Deformed clones

Dalton

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• Nov 20, 2006

• #1

Hey guy's I have a quick question. I accidently screwed up my timer setting a couple of days ago and my clones were getting 16hrs of light instead of 18 they still rooted but looked a little deformed twisted and claw-like leaves. I put them on my flood table and started them at 18 hrs of light 2 days ago. New growth is slow and still deformed looking. how long should it take to snap out of it. I only wanted to veg them for 4 days. Should I just put them into flower now?

 

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stretchpuppy

• Nov 20, 2006

• #2

The problem you mention sounds little to do with the light cycle, at least I've never had deformations because of lighting cycles. Genetics, nutrients, medium, would all be better places to look for a problem.

Flush them well and feed a freshly mixed batch of food.

Flowering, etc, is up to you an your space. I've found that week extra of Veg sure does pay off in the end...

 

G

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• Nov 20, 2006

• #3

agreed...most likely nutrients

stretchpuppy said:

The problem you mention sounds little to do with the light cycle, at least I've never had deformations because of lighting cycles. Genetics, nutrients, medium, would all be better places to look for a problem.

Flush them well and feed a freshly mixed batch of food.

Flowering, etc, is up to you an your space. I've found that week extra of Veg sure does pay off in the end...

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Dalton

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• Nov 20, 2006

• #4

OK here are some pics and a rundown of what's going on. I have been using de-chorinated tap water with Flora Nova Grow 200 ppm, Calmag 75 ppm,
Hygrozyme 50ppm, my tap water is about 125ppm, so I'm feeding at about
450ppm that I worked up to. I am growing in coco( GH mixed brick) which I flushed heavily at 6.0 ph until the ppm dropped. I feed once a day at a ph of 6.0. The strain is nirvana's misty. Temps are around 75 lights on 62 lights off. rh 55%. I can't really think of anything else to add. Please help. Oh I also have no access to canna nutes so I would to be able to use my flora nova I have grow and bloom, the Grow is working great on my mothers.

 

sproutco

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• Nov 20, 2006

• #5

You should stop using the cal mag with the flora nova series ferts. Nights are too cold.

 

Last edited: Nov 20, 2006

Dalton

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• Nov 21, 2006

• #6

Holy Diver, Sproutco You Got it! I was supplementing with the calmag because I had read that non coco nutes should be supplemented. After doing some reading up, my FLORANOVA nutes have plenty and I guess I was blocking the fundamentals with the Calmag. I also will be turning on space heater at night. Thanks Alot

 

Dalton

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• Nov 28, 2006

• #7

Alright I'm Back. I flushed and backed off the calmag. Now feeding @400 ppm
I'm keeping the temp constant between 72 and 75. they have picked up on the growth and now it's starting to look like a mag deficiency on some of the plants. I also noticed some fungus gnats. I'm going to run out in a bit to pick up somthing for that. Maybe I should raise my ppm's now? Any suggestions

 

MynameStitch

Dr. Doolittle

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #8

since you are using tap water you should not be using cal mag heavily, cal mag is used for RO water and water that has been filtered heavily that removes it from the water. like distilled.

some look heat related the first picture, some mutations are likely in strains and that was normal as long as it did not spread. THe rest of them the curled leaves look like raidant heat issues but the 2nd to last picture it looks like they were burned, how much nutrients are you using and how often?
WHat brand of coco are you using?
how close are your lights to your plants>?

You should not have to feed your plants everyday like that, when you have everything mixed in what are the ppms total? You should monitor the ppms every day and keep them steady when need be.

 

sproutco

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #9

I don't know about magnesium def. I see zinc trouble. If your feeding everday then your watering everyday. This is probably too much. Try letting the plants go to slight wilting between your feedings. (not fully wilted) Zinc trouble is usually associated with cold wet soils.

 

Last edited: Nov 29, 2006

Dalton

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #10

Allright I ran out of Ph test dops like a week ago. I thought I had it down by counting drops of ph down. I just got more and tested reservior at 5.0!!!
The coco I'm using is the gh cocotek bricks. I flushed it before using with 6.0 water and I have about an inch of hydrotron on the bottom and the bottom and lower sides of my pots have a ton of holes in them. I fished my hand in there a bit and they drie out really fast. mostly the top half of the pot is dry when I water and feed. I don't think I can let it drie out because I wan't to get the ph up and I have mosquito dunks for the gnats too. There doesn't seem to be any burn on the tips or horns. I'm @ 450ppm @.5 right now. But I don't really have too much experience So what do you guys think. Oh the lights are 2 400's about 14 inches from tops.

 

sproutco

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #11

Definately get that ph up. LOL.

 

Dalton

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #12

I'm guessing like 6.5 just to raise it. Should I go higher?

 

sproutco

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #13

Try that. Your the grower. Those pots need to become the mojave desert.

 

Dalton

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• Nov 29, 2006

• #14

I'm the grower is the scary part. Everytime I recover from a mistake, I make a new one. Books, video's, this site is great. But the infirmary is where it's at. Thanks for helping me keep my plants alive for another day. You guys should be hired consultants. Thanks Alot