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Known SIL LED Configurations List Thread

Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
I'm personally in the market for specific types of SILs, and all of my existing ones are now 2-3 years old. SILs have become quite popular, and it would be handy to have a compiled list of lamps. Since SIL models keep changing, it would also be handy to have an updated list.

Purchased SILs recently and removed the globes? Please feel free to post the following information on them:

Brand:
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum:
CRI:
Wattage (actual watts):
Lumens:
Number of LED chips:
All LED Chips the same?(yes/no):
Watts per square foot:
Distance from plant without burning:
Additional Notes:

Did I miss anything? I'm specifically looking to see which lamps are using the best LED chips, which ones are using low wattage chips, which ones are using the highest wattage chips, the coolest running high wattage models, and changes between models as time passes. I'm reserving the first few posts, with the goal of maintaining current lists of the best lamps at the beginning of the thread.

Thanks for any and all assistance in this. :tiphat:
 
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Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
ECOSMART

Brand: ecosmart
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 2700
CRI: 80
Wattage (actual watts): 15
Lumens:1500
Number of LED chips:41

Great Value

Brand: great value ..walmart
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 4000
CRI: 80
Wattage (actual watts): 9.5
Lumens:800
Number of LED chips:11


Mili Leuchten


Brand: Mili Leuchten
Model/#: 6364
Kelvin/Spectrum: 5000K
CRI: >80
Wattage (actual watts): 15W
Lumens: 1400
Number of LED chips: 39
All LED Chips the same?: yes
Watts per square foot: 30W
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
MTBF: 25000 hours
Beam Angle: 220º
Additional Notes: I use this bulb on one of my SILs fixtures. 2 years and going strong, zero chips gone.

These were 8.65€ a six-pack back in the beggining of 2018, but amazon seller seem to have gone crazy and is selling them at 10€ a pop now.


Osram


Brand: Osram
Mode/l#:LED Superstar Classic
Kelvin/Spectrum: 6500k and 2700k
Wattage (actual watts): 9.5W
Lumens:
Advertised Lumens: 1055lm
Number of LED chips: 30 (6500k) or 21 (2700k)
Likes/Dislikes: Good bulbs that I like. Sadly, I can no longer find them in this wattage. These have the highest advertised lumens I can find locally.
(edit: When I get too many reports these are completely

Brand: Osram
Model/#:LED Value A100
Kelvin/Spectrum: 6500k
Wattage (actual watts): 14W
Advertised Lumens: 1500lm
Number of LED chips: 36
Likes/Dislikes: Good bulbs too. They were on sale 2 for 1, so I bought 20 total.

Philips

Brand: Philips
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 2700K
CRI:
Wattage (actual watts): 15
Lumens:
Number of LED chips: 40
All LED Chips the same?(yes/no): Yes
Watts per square foot:
Distance from plant without burning: 4"
Additional Notes:

Brand: phillips (canada)
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 4000
CRI: 80
Wattage (actual watts): 15
Lumens:1500
Number of LED chips: 36

Brand: Philips
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 4000K
CRI:
Wattage (actual watts): 14
Lumens: 1500
Number of LED chips:
All LED Chips the same?(yes/no):
Watts per square foot:
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
Additional Notes:

Brand: Philips
Model/#: 929001234902
Kelvin/Spectrum: 4100K
CRI: >80
Wattage (actual watts): 13.5W
Lumens: 1521
Number of LED chips: 27
All LED Chips the same?: yes
Watts per square foot: 30W
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
MTBF: 15000 hours
Beam Angle: 200º
Additional Notes: I use this bulb on all my SILs fixtures. 2 years and going strong, zero chips gone.

Brand: Philips
Model/#: 929001234491
Kelvin/Spectrum: 2700K
CRI: >80
Wattage (actual watts): 11W
Lumens: 1055
Number of LED chips: 17
All LED Chips the same?: yes
Watts per square foot: 30W
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
MTBF: 15000 hours
Beam Angle: 200º
Additional Notes: I use this bulb on all my SILs fixtures. 2 years and going strong, zero chips gone.

Brand: Phillips
Model/#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 5000k
CRI:
Wattage (actual watts): 7
Lumens: 450
Number of LED chips: 8
All LED Chips the same?: Yes
Watts per square foot:
Distance from plant without burning:



Westinghouse


Brand: Westinghouse
Model#: 38967 A60
Kelvin/Spectrum: 3000k
Wattage (actual watts): 11W
Number of LED chips: 14
Advertised Lumen: 1050lm
All LED Chips the same?(yes/no): yes
 

Swanson

Member
I like this Douglas. So many varieties now.
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Phillips 15W 2700K 1500 Lumens
Start to notice heat stress around 4" from bulb. Had to go there due to my microbox height restrictions.
Effective well made flowering bulb, would recommend.
Edited to add model # 9290019578
 
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Hookahhead

Active member
Osram LED Superstar Classic

Osram LED Superstar Classic

Brand: Osram LED Superstar Classic
Kelvin/Spectrum: 6500k and 2700k
Wattage (actual watts): 9.5W
Advertised Lumens: 1055lm
Number of LED chips: 30 (6500k) or 21 (2700k)
Likes/Dislikes: Good bulbs that I like. Sadly, I can no longer find them in this wattage. These have the highest advertised lumens I can find locally.

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Hookahhead

Active member
Osram LED Value A100

Osram LED Value A100

Brand: Osram LED Value A100
Kelvin/Spectrum: 6500k
Wattage (actual watts): 14W
Advertised Lumens: 1500lm
Number of LED chips: 36
Likes/Dislikes: Good bulbs too. They were on sale 2 for 1, so I bought 20 total.

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f-e

Well-known member
Mentor
Veteran
In the UK, ASDA (Walmart owned) sell a 12w 1521 lumen lamp. Not just the cheaper 14w version.
 

H G Griffin

Well-known member
In Canada, the Costco house brand comes in non-dimmable 9.5 and 15 watt. 3000K is the only colour they sell. I generally flower under the 15w, but sometimes use the 9.5s if there is an issue with headroom.

I don't keep exact records but would estimate around 5-7% failure after one year of constant use in flowering, which is more than acceptable to me, given replacement cost.


I veg under the ~10w 5000k, 10/box ones from walmart. I'll buy anything in that wattage and colour range for veg though, as it hasn't seemed to make an appreciable difference when I've used other brands.
 

Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
I use and have Philips brand led , 4000k 14/w i have 20 , the distance i use is 15 cm , hope this can help u !
Yes it helps, thank you so much. Would you be able to find any additional info? I've filled in what you supplied and any additional info would be great. :)

Brand: Philips
Model#:
Kelvin/Spectrum: 4000K
CRI:
Wattage (actual watts): 14
Number of LED chips:
All LED Chips the same?(yes/no):
Watts per square foot:
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
Additional Notes:

I like this Douglas. So many varieties now.
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Phillips 15W 2700K 1500 Lumens
Start to notice heat stress around 4" from bulb. Had to go there due to my microbox height restrictions.
Thanks, there ARE a lot now. I'm going to add "Model #," to the list, since I'm sure we're going to get multiple versions from companies of the same wattage. Any additional info you can provide on the 15w's would be very helpful as well. :)

great stuff
Love the clear images, thank you for the detailed listings. :tiphat:

Greatly appreciated everyone, this is going to be very useful to a lot of growers.
 

Swanson

Member
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Phillips 7W 5000k 450 Lumens.
Thought these were 11W. I'm vegging with only 38W then and thanks to LED that's plenty for me. :dance013:
 

Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Coming along nicely, thanks everyone.

Any suggestions on a more detailed list? I've added lumens and watts per square foot, along with model/#.
 

Hookahhead

Active member
Brand: Westinghouse
Model#: 38967 A60
Kelvin/Spectrum: 3000k

Wattage (actual watts): 11W
Number of LED chips: 14
Advertised Lumen: 1050lm
All LED Chips the same?(yes/no): yes

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repuk

Altruistic Hazeist
Veteran
Philips

Philips

Brand: Philips
Model/#: 929001234491
Kelvin/Spectrum: 2700K
CRI: >80
Wattage (actual watts): 11W
Lumens: 1055
Number of LED chips: 17
All LED Chips the same?: yes
Watts per square foot: 30W
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
MTBF: 15000 hours
Beam Angle: 200º
Additional Notes: I use this bulb on all my SILs fixtures. 2 years and going strong, zero chips gone.

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This bulb doesn't seem to be available now, I'm sourcing #929001234591 (13W) as sub, will post once I receive them.
 

repuk

Altruistic Hazeist
Veteran
Philips

Philips

Brand: Philips
Model/#: 929001234902
Kelvin/Spectrum: 4100K
CRI: >80
Wattage (actual watts): 13.5W
Lumens: 1521
Number of LED chips: 27
All LED Chips the same?: yes
Watts per square foot: 30W
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
MTBF: 15000 hours
Beam Angle: 200º
Additional Notes: I use this bulb on all my SILs fixtures. 2 years and going strong, zero chips gone.

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Philips Product Page and Spec sheets: https://www.lighting.philips.com.eg...lamps/corepro-ledbulb/929001234902_EU/product
 

repuk

Altruistic Hazeist
Veteran
Example implementation

Example implementation

Example implementation using previous posts Philips #929001234491 (black) and #929001234902 (blue)

Power: 202W measured.

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Actual Fixture:

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Vegging Application
Actually I'm using it to veg a 1,05x1,30x1,95m cubicle, I'd say with great results for 202W:

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Flowering Application
This girl (Golden Tiger x Panama) was flowered under it (1,5gpw, 60x60 area):

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Usage
This fixture proven to me to be great both for Vegging and Flowering.

The most notable aspect I'd highlight from it is the stalks and stems, grow huge and strong, an ACE's Violeta flowered under it had stalks strong like fiber glass. Also incredible foxtailing with sativas prone to it.

While vegging, I find the stems to be specially soft and pliable, which I find great for LST. Also helps in containing stretch.

Notes:
I prefer using ceramic sockets over E27 multipliers. If using multipliers, take the time to inspect all the brass parts (unpowered!) on them and make sure they make good, solid contact both with the main socket and all the SIL bulbs.
 

repuk

Altruistic Hazeist
Veteran
Mili Leuchten (No name German) 15W 5000K

Mili Leuchten (No name German) 15W 5000K

Brand: Mili Leuchten
Model/#: 6364
Kelvin/Spectrum: 5000K
CRI: >80
Wattage (actual watts): 15W
Lumens: 1400
Number of LED chips: 39
All LED Chips the same?: yes
Watts per square foot: 30W
Distance from plant without burning: 15cm
MTBF: 25000 hours
Beam Angle: 220º
Additional Notes: I use this bulb on one of my SILs fixtures. 2 years and going strong, zero chips gone.

These were 8.65€ a six-pack back in the beggining of 2018, but amazon seller seem to have gone crazy and is selling them at 10€ a pop now.

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Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Awesome! Thank you, Repuk :)

The German generic looks interesting to me. Excess 'sealant' for the globe (I can imagine working on that assembly line lol) and a neat chip pattern. :)
 
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