Headsmcgee1
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Is it true if a plant gets PM once it will have it forever?
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king oscar
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eagle 20 will eradicate it forever.. Without that you might as well throw it out it'll come back given the slightest chance
Tbonegrower
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Both of the above are true statements.
I used eagle 20 as a last stitch effort to "break the cycle" and after only treating my mothers, after about 18 weeks the PM was completely gone from my garden.
Be very careful when you are attempting to manage PM, as the use of systemic products in flower is a HUGE no-no.
I used eagle 20 as a last stitch effort to "break the cycle" and after only treating my mothers, after about 18 weeks the PM was completely gone from my garden.
Be very careful when you are attempting to manage PM, as the use of systemic products in flower is a HUGE no-no.
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Fuck eagle 20 atomize wettable sulfur at the onset of flower all day every day
Tbonegrower
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I've personally witnessed sulfur fail to manage PM. I would not say that Eagle 20 is the only way, but it was the only way that worked for me after more than a year of battle...
Not arguing, just saying.
Not arguing, just saying.
Eagle 20 should never be used on anything that is going to be smoked. There are way too many other viable alternatives.
Try Procidic2. Works on contact and systemically...and it's organic. Not to mention it was specifically formulated for cannabis.
dank.Frank
Try Procidic2. Works on contact and systemically...and it's organic. Not to mention it was specifically formulated for cannabis.
dank.Frank
Tbonegrower
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Good looking Frank. I had never heard of this product when I was battling PM (it was 5+ years ago). At this point I have actually had to tear down anyway due to the big D... just recently put some cabs together to keep myself busy...
George
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We have powdery mildew everywhere here. IMO it's all in your environment. My plants have PM that they got from the outdoor plants here. There is no reason for us to use eagle 20 because it'll just be reintroduced from the outside. The use of a good dehumidifier and environmental control should take care of it for you. PM is like any other mold/mildew, it needs the right conditions or it will not germinate. It will not attempt to start its reproductive process by growing outside of the plant until it sees conditions that favor it so that it can continue to spread to new plants.
Edit: I should say once we got our environment dialed in I have no seen a single instance of PM and we did not treat for it.
Edit: I should say once we got our environment dialed in I have no seen a single instance of PM and we did not treat for it.
soserthc1
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A organic product called dragon juice pm2 really helped my pm issue
Actually made my plants healthier and it can be used lights on
Mind you I just had a few leaves on a few plants 10 days ago and I've needed to spot a few times since. So this could of only been a temporary fix. I've never had pm before and I'm pretty anal about IPM
Gonna research that product frank put up now
Actually made my plants healthier and it can be used lights on
Mind you I just had a few leaves on a few plants 10 days ago and I've needed to spot a few times since. So this could of only been a temporary fix. I've never had pm before and I'm pretty anal about IPM
Gonna research that product frank put up now
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king oscar
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I haven't used anything other than eagle that sorted the problem for good.
The procidic2 worked long term for you frank? The only active ingredient is citric acid that would really be a game changer
The procidic2 worked long term for you frank? The only active ingredient is citric acid that would really be a game changer
I'm getting a bunch of PMs so I'll address this here, publicly.
I'm not 1000% sure that Procidic and Procidic2 are fundamentally any different.
I have NOT had PM on cannabis for years, but then again, I've not been primarily growing cannabis for a long time.
Anything marketed to the cannabis industry has a mark up and we all know this.
I will say that Procidic works amazingly for the purpose within the industry that I originally became aware of it. Scientifically field tested and lots of supported data by several leading universities. I love the product.
Yes. It is a citric acid compound. When you study PM in general, as has been posted in this thread already, if environmental conditions exist that are not favorable to it's spread, then it will not do so. A pound of prevention...
Looking at it for what it is, primarily a citric acid solution with dispersion and wetting agents, it must lower the pH of the phylosphere and therefore create unfavorable environmental conditions.
I've only seen pm in a indoor or sealed grow room when there wasn't enough air circulation and no dehumidifier running.
I still stand by my recommendation of the product. It is costly but well worth it if you are growing a crop worth multiple thousands of dollars. The cost of the product becomes negligible then at that point.
I love that no one has heard of it though. Glad to introduce you to something new. I told F.A.M. about it a couple years ago...but then again, that crew doesn't see PM very often either.
That would be why I said "try" as opposed to making a long post proclaiming it to be the key to the magical kingdom. For the purpose and industry in which I use Procidic, it is an organically certified game changer.
dank.Frank
I'm not 1000% sure that Procidic and Procidic2 are fundamentally any different.
I have NOT had PM on cannabis for years, but then again, I've not been primarily growing cannabis for a long time.
Anything marketed to the cannabis industry has a mark up and we all know this.
I will say that Procidic works amazingly for the purpose within the industry that I originally became aware of it. Scientifically field tested and lots of supported data by several leading universities. I love the product.
Yes. It is a citric acid compound. When you study PM in general, as has been posted in this thread already, if environmental conditions exist that are not favorable to it's spread, then it will not do so. A pound of prevention...
Looking at it for what it is, primarily a citric acid solution with dispersion and wetting agents, it must lower the pH of the phylosphere and therefore create unfavorable environmental conditions.
I've only seen pm in a indoor or sealed grow room when there wasn't enough air circulation and no dehumidifier running.
I still stand by my recommendation of the product. It is costly but well worth it if you are growing a crop worth multiple thousands of dollars. The cost of the product becomes negligible then at that point.
I love that no one has heard of it though. Glad to introduce you to something new. I told F.A.M. about it a couple years ago...but then again, that crew doesn't see PM very often either.
That would be why I said "try" as opposed to making a long post proclaiming it to be the key to the magical kingdom. For the purpose and industry in which I use Procidic, it is an organically certified game changer.
dank.Frank
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How about Sierra Natural Science 244? Anyone try it? Claims to be an natural fungicide.
"Kills Fungus & Mildew and Is Highly Effective For the Control of a Broad Spectrum of Vegetable, Fruit & Ornamental Plant Fungal Diseases. SNS-244C™Concentrated Natural Fungicide is made up of 100% pure Thyme, Clove & Rosemary botanical extracts."
https://sierranaturalscience.com/product/sns-244c-fungicide-16-oz-concentrate/
"Kills Fungus & Mildew and Is Highly Effective For the Control of a Broad Spectrum of Vegetable, Fruit & Ornamental Plant Fungal Diseases. SNS-244C™Concentrated Natural Fungicide is made up of 100% pure Thyme, Clove & Rosemary botanical extracts."
https://sierranaturalscience.com/product/sns-244c-fungicide-16-oz-concentrate/
That would be no different than something like EcoSmart line of products which I have used in the past with only moderate control / success.
dank.Frank
dank.Frank
SuperBudBros
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Just noticed some pm on one of my plants very little on like 2 leave, took this plant out the tent, the plants are still on veg will this eagle 20 harm them in any way?
GnarlsBarkley
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Copper Fungicide is organic and safe and kills PM. Tons of good options before turning to something as nasty as Eagle 20.
SuperBudBros
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Yeah just asking as the people who will be smoking this is my family so don't really want to poison them so thanks.
GnarlsBarkley
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would make thanksgiving a lot more awkward. good looking out 
