lets talk em1, bim, imo, and any other benificial bacs n fungis n effective micro org

hi there peeps been doin alot of lookin into all beni's lately especially lactobacillis/ effective micro organisms and i must say im looking forward to using my first batch thats nearly finished sitting.. everyone feel free to upload any related piks to thread and any info welcome too.. but keep it good vibes plz..

i plan on making some bokashi with it too and also use some to make a compost pile, and start a worm bin n add some to the food too, n use as a foliar in veg, and soil drench thru all stages, as i used a simmilar product before called plant magic essence by expert oldtimer1 off uk 420 before, which has all the same beni's in as the em1 plus a few more i think and u bubble it up like an aact tea, and my girls loved it when i gave em a spray n soil drench they was so healthy n vigerous like they was on steroids n even stunk in veg so im lookin forward to seein if its same results with these effective micro organisms iv nearly finished making..

so far it smells very much like the hygrozyme i already use thru all stages which is also rumoured that em1 is its main or 1 of the main things its made from.. also il be looking to try and make some imo , bim and other things i can make with the em1/ lactobacillis once its finished which is as easy as using some the lacto with some rice in a box with some of the soil from your grow and some the soil from your local areas oldest woodland areas that u can find from a thriving area of it#

but im gonna put more detailed instructions on here soon of how to make em1/lactobacillis and other beni's like bim/imo that iv found bits n pieces on the internet from some very knowledgable sources..

hope to have some great convos going on in here lets bring the knowledge together, n the bud quality right up peeps

il share my piks of my lacto iv been making when i come next time with my camera but everyone else feel free to post away

k so i started out n made a bad batch of lactobacilis i think coz i used the wrong milk that was homenogised n u need un homenogised posh milk like u will see worked in the next post but this is what happend with normal full fat milk

then this is what happened when i used this un homenogised milk instead.. PROPER GOOD lactobacilis EM.. seperated in the correct way after a few days n left to 5 i think..

basicaly i followed the original gil's way of making it from there website here http://www.hawaiihealingtree.org/how-to-make-your-own-em-1-inoculant-and-bokashi/ or here is the full instructions from there website n i will do my step by step with pics too also incase makes clearer... heres the step by step anyways..

Aloha thumbs and friends. I am back to give one of my biggest secrets away, it is my own homemade root inoculate or EM™/BAM(beneficial active microorganism) made with rice water, milk and sugar. There are many shelf bought version for ridiculous pricing, for those with the little know how to make ones own. House & Garden makes Root Accelerator,Hygrozyme, Sensizyme, Advanced Nutrients Voodoo Juice are some of the high priced products that my own home culture works as well as or even in some cases has even worked better. I know many growers that would not even think of culturing their own or even would have the know how to, but I offer you my knowledge for your own frugal organic gardening purposes. Not to mention how I have talked about recycling and composting with worms, now I will introduce you to the Japanese form of Bokashi Composting or fermenting and how to make your own home made cheap alternative Bokashi Buckets and Bokashi mix.

Wikipedia:

Effective Microorganisms, aka EM Technology, is a trademarked term now commonly used to describe a proprietary blend of 3 or more types of predominantly anaerobic organisms that was originally marketed as EM-1™ Microbial Inoculate but is now marketed by a plethora of companies under various names, each with their own proprietary blend. “EM™ Technology” uses a laboratory cultured mixture of microorganisms consisting mainly of lactic acid bacteria, purple bacteria, and yeast which co-exist for the benefit of whichever environment they are introduced, as has been claimed by the various em-like culture purveyors. It is reported[1] to include:

Lactic acid bacteria: Lactobacillus plantarum; L. casei; Streptococcus Lactis.
Photosynthetic bacteria: Rhodopseudomonas palustris; Rhodobacter sphaeroides.
Yeast: Saccharomyces cerevisiae; Candida utilis (no longer used) (usually known as Torula, Pichia Jadinii).
Actinomycetes (no longer used in the formulas): Streptomyces albus; S. griseus.
Fermenting fungi (no longer used in the formulas): Aspergillus oryzae; Mucor hiemalis.

The concept of ‘Friendly Microorganisms’ was developed by Japanese horticulturist Teruo Higa, from the University of the Ryukyus in Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa, Japan. He reported in the 1970s that a combination of approximately 80 different microorganisms is capable of positively influencing decomposing organic matter such that it reverts into a ‘life promoting’ process. Higa invokes a ‘dominance principle’ to explain the effects of his ‘Effective Microorganisms’. He claims that three groups of microorganisms exist: ‘positive microorganisms’ (regeneration), ‘negative microorganisms’ (decomposition, degeneration), ‘opportunist microorganisms’. In every medium (soil, water, air, the human intestine), the ratio of ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ microorganisms is critical, since the opportunist microorganisms follow the trend to regeneration or degeneration. Therefore, Higa believes that it is possible to positively influence the given media by supplementing with positive microorganisms.

EM™ Technology is supposed to maintain sustainable practices such as farming and sustainable living, and also claims to support human health and hygiene, animal husbandry, compost and waste management, disaster clean-up (The Southeast Tsunami of 2004, the Kobe Earthquake, and Hurricane Katrina remediation projects), and generally used to promote functions in natural communities.

EM™ has been employed in many agricultural applications, but is also used in the production of several health products in South Africa and the USA.[citation needed] (fuel additive products are no longer available).

A High School in Malaysia, Sekolah Menegah Kebangsaan Dato’ Onn Butterworth, Penang, are using EM to treat Greywater, minimise odour from Septic Tank & remove sludge from drains.

This is a recipe I learned from a friend along time ago.

EM/BAM: this a trade secret!(lactobacillus culture)

1/4 cup rice

1quart Mason Jar

1 cup water

1 fine mesh strainer

80 oz milk depends on how much one is making

1 gallon container or jar

1 tsp. black-strap molasses

Procedure:

1. Place rice and cup of water in mason jar and shake vigorously until water is cloudy white, strain off rice kernels and discard into tour compost bin or cook for dinner. I have heard of the Japanese adding a dash of nato to help ferment but not needed.

2. place cap on loosely and store in a cabinet or cool dark place for 5-7 days.

3. Sift off top layer and strain liquid (serum)

4. measure your rice liquid and now add a ratio of 1 part fermented rice to 10 parts milk, I would culture in a 1 gallon jar. let sit for 5-7 days.

Rice water and milk serum fermenting 3 days – notice lid is only siting on top as to not build pressure.

5. sift off curd settlement and add to your soil or feed your animals it is good for their digestion, then there should be a light yellow serum left this is your unactivated serum.

6. Add 1 tsp molasses to feed and keep your bacteria alive and refrigerate. should have a shelf life of 6-12 months.

7. to activate microorganism activities and to room temperature non-chlorinated water at a ratio of 1 part Serum to 20 parts water.

8. feed to plants either straight into soil or follicular feeding.

so basicaly i started with gettin my rice wash by shaking my rice in a jar then tipping through a strainer to separate the water from rice, left covered with paper towel n elastic band around for 5 to 7 days but it separated into the 3 bacteria layers after 3 n got the skum ontop the rice water that i scooped off most with spoon then used siringe to suck the middle main layer out that hold the lactobacilis without the top skum n the bottom rice sediment layer

fermentations are amazing... stay on top of multiplying your serum!


i use alot of recipes from hawaiian healing tree AND the unconventional farmer; tweaked slightly of course.

in my opinion making BIM/IMO is a big step up from just lacto / em1 ferments and kashi - like the difference between using worm casting and having loads of happy worms directly in your soil.

I'm following along with you, I've made my lactobacillus culture and have been putting it to good use. I've been following the Gil's recipies from theunconventionalfarmer.com. I've made my lactobacillus, made some fish fertilizer, started my CalPhos, and am fermenting some cannabis tops and leaves.

then once i had my bacteria infected rice water i took 75 ml n mixed with 1 of these bottles unhomonegised milk to make the 10 parts to one, 10 parts milk to 1 parts rice water, n left for a further 5 to 7 days just behind my tv in a warm kinda darkish area but it had already reacted n separated after just 3 days but iv been advised to leave to the at least 5 to 7 days so it is defo ready, a way of making sure is that should have dropped ph to between 3 n 4 somethin ph..

then i had to separate cheese by product and the pure surum by just using a strainer to net it all out n pouring pure lacto serum through the strainer at end n then stabalised it with a couple tspoons of mollases n shaking it all up together to give some food to stay alive n then fridged it,

then i use mine by taking a couple cap fulls pure serum with couple tspoons mollasses so its 1to 1 ratio n mix with water filled in a 500ml bottle to get a rough 20 to 1 dilution safe to mix at 1 to 2 tspoons a galon of feed water n they friggin love me for it!

Avinash.miles said:

fermentations are amazing... stay on top of multiplying your serum!
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i use alot of recipes from hawaiian healing tree AND the unconventional farmer; tweaked slightly of course.

in my opinion making BIM/IMO is a big step up from just lacto / em1 ferments and kashi - like the difference between using worm casting and having loads of happy worms directly in your soil.

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yea bro nice sweetas! i only need a little at a time so i just multiply n dilute when needed so i dont waste it n have loads layin around in my tiny place hehe if only i had enough space n girls to use all that on bro! and yea now its all about learning how to use this to start fermenting my own magic plant extract potions been doing some my own reasearch from them and other sites too.. thanks for popin in n stay in touch bro keep it green n peace n buds to all

ReikoX said:

I'm following along with you, I've made my lactobacillus culture and have been putting it to good use. I've been following the Gil's recipies from theunconventionalfarmer.com. I've made my lactobacillus, made some fish fertilizer, started my CalPhos, and am fermenting some cannabis tops and leaves.

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brilliant bro thats exactly the path i was planning on taking i hear this lacto can make some mean liquid fish emulsion fert thats results n plant health are as good as it gets.. stay in touch n thanks for popin in keep it green bro peace n buds

Fish Fertilizer

Fish Fertilizer

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here's a few thousand words on making fish fertilizer.

First get a fish. My dad caught this one at a local lake.


Chop up the fish in about eight pieces and throw it in the blender with 3x more water than fish.


Blend it up until most of the crunching stops.


Add about 1/3 the weight of the fish worth of sugar or molasses and put it in a fermentation container. Add 1-2 TBSP diluted lactobacillus serum I used a growler and an air lock from the brew store. You could use a plastic bottle with a balloon as shown on the previous page by Avinash.miles.


In about three to four weeks it will be finished. How will you know? Smell it. You should get a viniger smell and not much else. Strain out what's left (not much) and bottle it up. What I found interesting was it has no smell, especially compared to Alaskan Fish Fertilizer. Despite having no smell in the bottle, if you get it on your hands you will smell like a fish all day!

ReikoX said:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here's a few thousand words on making fish fertilizer.

First get a fish. My dad caught this one at a local lake.
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Chop up the fish in about eight pieces and throw it in the blender with 3x more water than fish.
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Blend it up until most of the crunching stops.
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Add about 1/3 the weight of the fish worth of sugar or molasses and put it in a fermentation container. I used a growler and an air lock from the brew store. You could use a plastic bottle with a balloon as shown on the previous page by Avinash.miles.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=69097&pictureid=1643782View Image

In about three to four weeks it will be finished. How will you know? Smell it. You should get a viniger smell and not much else. Strain out what's left (not much) and bottle it up. What I found interesting was it has no smell, especially compared to Alaskan Fish Fertilizer. Despite having no smell in the bottle, if you get it on your hands you will smell like a fish all day!

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ok cool thanks bro thats as raw n pure as it gets! u forgot to add the bit about how much lacto to use or where u use it tho bro lol i take it u add before the fermentation process yes?..

Oops, yeah added about a tbsp of diluted lactobacillus with the molasses. That's the most important part.

ReikoX said:

Oops, yeah added about a tbsp of diluted lactobacillus with the molasses. That's the most important part.

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hehe sweetas bro ha yea never mind the important related bit haha must be smoking that good goooood too bro huh

ReikoX said:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here's a few thousand words on making fish fertilizer.

First get a fish. My dad caught this one at a local lake.
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Chop up the fish in about eight pieces and throw it in the blender with 3x more water than fish.
[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=69097&pictureid=1643780&thumb=0]View Image[/url]

Blend it up until most of the crunching stops.
[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=69097&pictureid=1643781&thumb=0]View Image[/url]

Add about 1/3 the weight of the fish worth of sugar or molasses and put it in a fermentation container. I used a growler and an air lock from the brew store. You could use a plastic bottle with a balloon as shown on the previous page by Avinash.miles.
[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=69097&pictureid=1643782&thumb=0]View Image[/url]

In about three to four weeks it will be finished. How will you know? Smell it. You should get a viniger smell and not much else. Strain out what's left (not much) and bottle it up. What I found interesting was it has no smell, especially compared to Alaskan Fish Fertilizer. Despite having no smell in the bottle, if you get it on your hands you will smell like a fish all day!

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good post man.. i like the idea!

TnTLabs said:

good post man.. i like the idea!

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yep i agree thats what its all about chiming in n helping eachother have as much grow knowledge as we can all share

also i dunno if anyone else clocked on to the fact that we are calling lactobacilis em1 when infact it is em4 if u look online i read sumwhere that em1 is basicaly the first stage when making with the decomposing fruit method n there is other steps when making it n then it eventually is lactobacilis when its at stage em4... funny that huh considering alot of people have been calling lacto serum em1.. il try find the related article anyways n copy n paste for peeps when find it..

lacto isn't the same as em1,
em1 contains lacto bacillus cultures AND others it's generally more diverse of a consortium of microbes than you are going to get by separating curds and whey using rice wash.....

not to say lacto is insufficient, or insuperior to em1, but em1 is more diverse of a mix
so yes, to say em1 = lacto is false, imo the terms should not be interchanged - better to be specific about what we really are innoculating with or using to ferment.

imo these cultures are the basic building blocks of the whole natural farming tech.
first comes lacto/em1 ("serum")
one gallon of serum can be multiplied in both liquid AND solid state fermentations.

FPJ/FPE (fermented plant juice / extract) are liquid fermentations based in water.
bokashi is a solid state ferment, because it is based in a sold form (traditionally grains)
when making either of these you only use a little bit of serum, but it multiplies as you let it sit/ferment.
in liquids; a few cups of serum and equal part of molasses a trash can full of water and fermentables (accumulator plants like alfalfa, plantain, horsetail, cannabis; animal byproducts like bone meal, bat guano, insect frass; and minerals like azamaz, rock dusts, native sand) if you are making a fermentation, if not just serum, water and sugar - seal it up and let it sit...
in solid state you just use a grain or carbon source instead of liquid, i like wheat bran mixed with rice hulls (3:1).
OR a bag of grain to having 50 lbs of innoculated grain

Hmm, I thought EM1 was a single type of culture. A yeast culture would be an EM1 too. I thought the EM4 was four types of culture; yeast, lactobacillus, phototropic bacteria, and others that co-exist. I cant find the reference at the moment, but regardless, they are all EM.