Plants week 4 ish still no buds

KangarooLover · Mar 28, 2015

my plants are about 4 weeks into flowering and only one strain seems to blossom and bloom and resinate and even then only one plant is producing

the area is 4x4 tent
mars 2 led 1200watt
weather was really hot at couple of points last week and then really cold are plants suffer from some sort of shock ?

feeding
my dwc plants im givng them directly what chart says to feed Rock Nutes 8ml bloom per gallon plus since week three started adding resonator in even tho no buds have formed also still feeding them supercharge root tonic

they ran into little bit of a root rot issue in week one of veg and I fixed it all right up witht he supercharge ( could they be delayed in bloom because of root rot first week

and if that's case with hydro whats going on with my soil plants why are only Blue kush flowering and the sleestaqck seems to do more leafs with no bud formation

here is some pictures let me know if u need better ones
GSC(girlscout cookies ) and great white in the hydro dwc set up fed with rock nutes

fed with house and garden along with super soil mix
sleestack sativa dominant strain

blue kush also recently it has formed thrichomes on leaf is becoming super frost since this picture but ecven the other 2 blue kush plants aren't doing as weel they just got some buds going but not as far along as this one which is placed in middle so is my light really shitty?

will take some more pictures to have had week change really the blue kush just forming bigger nugs and is in optimal flowering

KangarooLover · Mar 28, 2015

Blue kush above

great white below

sourpuss · Mar 28, 2015

Hmm looks actually pretty damn good. Issues like root rot may set your girls back.

Imo leds require less nutes only from my research do I think this. food for thought.... imo they look healthy and stong keep giving em the attention.... plants love that shit....

looking good! :good:

tommygh · Mar 28, 2015

They're looking pretty awesome. The last 2 White Widow I grew also matured at a different pace. Just give them some more time and they'll flower.

KangarooLover · Mar 28, 2015

thank you both some of that was anxiety and panic but good to hear they are fine huge chunk of stress off my back many thanks

Scrappy-doo · Mar 28, 2015

The ones you have in dwc look like they're getting nute burn. Kinda hard to see with those pics because of the led lights and it's a little too blurred to see the details, but in that first pic in the bottom right corner I can see the newest growth has burned tips. Whenever you see yellow on the tips of your leaves you're feeding too much. The second pic is too blurry to really see but also the new growth looks weird. Is it really that yellow or is that just the lights? What are you ph'ing your rez to?

The blue kush with buds on it looks good. The other one might be overwatered. Is the new growth really that yellow? If so that along with the droopy new growth, my first thought would be overwatered. How often are you watering and what size pots? I let my pots dry out a good amount before watering and wait till the pots are light when I pick them up.

That's just a first impression. Hard to really see what's going on with those pics. Some full plant shots would help. Also without the led light on.

You should have at least some bud development at this point on all of those strains you are growing.

KangarooLover · Mar 28, 2015

Scrappy-doo said:
The ones you have in dwc look like they're getting nute burn. Kinda hard to see with those pics because of the led lights and it's a little too blurred to see the details, but in that first pic in the bottom right corner I can see the newest growth has burned tips. Whenever you see yellow on the tips of your leaves you're feeding too much. The second pic is too blurry to really see but also the new growth looks weird. Is it really that yellow or is that just the lights? What are you ph'ing your rez to?

The blue kush with buds on it looks good. The other one might be overwatered. Is the new growth really that yellow? If so that along with the droopy new growth, my first thought would be overwatered. How often are you watering and what size pots? I let my pots dry out a good amount before watering and wait till the pots are light when I pick them up.

That's just a first impression. Hard to really see what's going on with those pics. Some full plant shots would help. Also without the led light on.

You should have at least some bud development at this point on all of those strains you are growing.

overwater is last thing I think cause if anything under watering I give about a gallon jug to each 5 gallon bucket theys uck up in week is this bad I usually wait till soil Is dry

and the ph is around 5.5 im going reduce the nutes in hydro

Lester Beans · Mar 28, 2015

What is your light schedule?

KangarooLover · Mar 28, 2015

Lester Beans said:
What is your light schedule?

the normal 12/12 I was thinking maybe adding more dark time but haven't read enough about the results

Scrappy-doo · Mar 29, 2015

If u are witing till theyre dry cool. I usually water till I get a little runoff then wait till theyre thirsty to give more. A little runoff is probably good considering youre using chems. If you get some 3/4 pics and some full shots I can let you know if I see anything else or may e I will see that theyre actually just fine. Any idea what the ppms are of your food mix?

KangarooLover · Mar 29, 2015

Scrappy-doo said:
If u are witing till theyre dry cool. I usually water till I get a little runoff then wait till theyre thirsty to give more. A little runoff is probably good considering youre using chems. If you get some 3/4 pics and some full shots I can let you know if I see anything else or may e I will see that theyre actually just fine. Any idea what the ppms are of your food mix?

but ya that yellow is more the light reflection of camera light its weird I will try and get a picture without led and natural light but hard when only time is when dark time and don't want to disturb but the yellows not there when the camera lights off if anything the lower branches are ones falling off or crisping this is alright yes the power should go to top colas ?

after some examination I think problem in hydro is phosphorus I got lower leafs with the tips that died off first or is this just normal for the lower leafs to die away I always had that assumption myself

also does this make difference all of them are 11-12 week strains all around 4 ft or higher then most of the sleestacks are untopped but most plants are topped making 4-6 what I call top cola sites on each plant

Hammerhead · Mar 29, 2015

Pop the worst out of its container have a look at your roots if u can. This is where all things happen. What is your EC runoff. They should be healthy whitish looking. No foul order like sulfur...If there fine the only thing left is cold temp's.

KangarooLover · Mar 30, 2015

Purple Frostbyte said:
Pop the worst out of its container have a look at your roots if u can. This is where all things happen. What is your EC runoff. They should be healthy whitish looking. No foul order like sulfur...If there fine the only thing left is cold temp's.

im waiting to water till dry but good news is my hydro plants are bloomins so the only one that's not is sleestack which is a sativa strain so would u agree it probally just saliva's take longer to bud?i think it is 12 week strain

tommygh · Mar 30, 2015

That's awesome! I knew they'd come around. It's just surprising that the one you didn't top is coming in slower. Gonna' be a monster :biggrin:

Bennyweed1 · Apr 12, 2015

Hey buddy, sorry I'm late to the garden. You get things turned around?

I have had plants not showing a proper photo period at 12/12. I increase the night schedule every time by increasing lights out by an hour.

What type of leds are you using? Im wondering about the light wavelengths/nanometers.

KangarooLover · May 21, 2015

I don't know it seems they are taking longer then usual to flower, im still in flower with my one that's been flowering for way over 10 weeks. Does the size of the plants increase the time of flower? also they where4-5ft when I threw in flower room which maxes out at 7 ft must of them began touch light, so I trimed them down to reasonable heigts again cuase they would not flower also the ones that where flowering at 4-5ft with like 0 stretch are taking what seems like for ever to fully flower one did have a nitrogen toxicity like one person was stating. the ones I had to trim down began to flower after being trimed down or just didn't do anything the ones that ddidnt do anything and just grew like in veg I cloned and killed off to make more space and did see better flowering from other guys. my hydro plant is doing well forming what looks to be beautiful flowers but as well is taking 2-3 months to flower? I do think these are all sativa dominant strains also.
also I did not prune at all before flower so I feel I wasted so much energy with all these nodes (bud sights) that could not get as much light, that actually eventually died out and when I noticed started to trim the bottom halfs.

in the end is it all of these the height , no pruning(trimming) , and the fact they are sativa why they are taking so long I think im like on week 20 and the one is the only one showing sign of being acouple weeks from being down or atleast at climax cuase its sucking up water every three days actually the one hydro pant that survived heat is doing really well sucking u major water feeling it every 4 days.

also some great news the 2 foot clones I put in are showing great signs so think I am from now on gonna start plants at 2-3 ft from now in SCrog nets.

hope this made since thanks for comments

tommygh · May 21, 2015

Hi KL. The only reason I can think of for the late flowers is the ones you pruned/topped. The one I topped last grow was also way slower. I meant to chop her much later, but I couldn't wait any more. The result was not anywhere as good as with the one I didn't. I'd let them grow. Chances are the bud may not get to be the size you're used to, but the longer you wait, the happier you'll be.

2 ft. clones???? Wha? Don't know anything about cloning, but that sounds huge.

All the best.

JamieShoes · May 21, 2015

ok so it looks like they have experienced a big temp swing and they're in shock (imvho) I see it's the first thing you thought of too...

look at this pic here and see what you think... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=163841&postcount=7

edit: otherwise I would look at light bleaching as a potential issue and move those lamps away a bit...I don't know much about LED but I do know those newer units throw out some crazy lumen power...

edit2: LOL I see this was months ago...ah well... it's all an education right?

KangarooLover · May 21, 2015

thank u that forum actually did have good pictures and yea it was totally heat stress and now the ones left have come back within the last weeks really tho dam the global warming heating the planet im going to start running a ac unit when it gets to high 80s to 90s outside unless some one has better idea?

stihgnobevoli · May 21, 2015

cold roots. also old thread.

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