Several versions of coots mix, which is the current one?

F

Former Guest

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• Mar 8, 2015

• #1

I've looked his soil mix but I've found a few different versions.

BAS has his mineral mix listed as this:
1 Part Brix Blend Basalt - Trace Minerals and High Paramagnetic Energy
1 Part Gypsum - Locally Mined in Colorado - Calcium and Sulfur
1 Part Oyster Flour - Mined from San Francisco Bay - High in Calcium
1 Part Glacial Rock Dust - Gaia Green Glacial Rock Dust - Trace Minerals
(1 Large Mineral Kit will mix with 1/2 Yard of soil) 1/2 Yard is = 13.5 Cubic Feet
Use at 4 Cups Per Cubic Foot

But I saw coots in 2011 post 5 parts glacial, 1 part basalt, bentonite and oyster in the ROLS thread.

Then I found xmobtx on another forum in 2014:

RECIPE Now, for a tablespoon per gallon, 1/2 cup per cubic foot is "close enough" ~so you can adjust to make smaller batches!

mix your neem, crab & kelp meals {if you want alfalfa meal it goes in here too} ~apply this mixture @ 1 cup per cubic foot

mix your glacier dust, basalt dust & if you want it clay/azomite ~apply this mixture @ 2 cups per cubic foot

gypsum & oyster flour mixed @ 2 oyster to 1 gypsum is applied @ 2 cups per cubic foot

if you want it, put your biochar in @ 1/2 cup per cubic foot

Click to expand...

So the amendments are double and the mineral mix is slightly different. What is the current mix? Should I just use BAS suggested mix or should I used the post from CC in 2011 in the ROLS thread or xmobtx recipe?

I'm not sure if people are currently posting old recipes or if search terms "coots soil mix" is too broad. Thanks

 

G

GHGrower

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• Mar 10, 2015

• #2

Subscribed. One of these days, I'm going to sit down and see what the actual values of all these ratios are. I suspect that the end resulting macros/micros don't change a heck of a lot.

 

stoned-trout

if it smells like fish

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• Mar 10, 2015

• #3

bumpetty...yeehaw

 

F

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• Mar 10, 2015

• #4

I had already bought what the original 2011 mix called for but got home and found the other mineral mixes. So I went with this:
3x glacial
1x basalt
1x oyster
.5x gypsum
.5x bentonite

 

F

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• Mar 10, 2015

• #5

But if I had to mix it again I would go

1x glacial
1x basalt
Then mix a seperate container or 2:1 oyster gypsum then add 2 cups of each mix for the four cups per cubic foot. The consistency of the glacial dust is very clay like like gypsum feels but the basalt is not clay like at all and conditions the mixes or maybe it's the oyster flour but lowering the glacial dust will make the mix more fluffy rather than clumpy if that makes any sense. The ratio must have something to do with the clay like structure of the minerals.

 

F

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• Mar 10, 2015

• #6

I'm mixing some up right

Bentonite gray, basalt black and oyster white with the chalky white being gypsum above.

Glacial and oyster

 

Lapides

Rosin Junky and Certified Worm Wrangler

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• Mar 11, 2015

• #7

I get a kick out watching so many people try and make their lives more difficult than it needs to be.

Only because I used to do it myself.

 

F

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• Mar 11, 2015

• #8

Well I could just throw some slow release ferts in some soilless. Simple is as simple does.

 

Team Microbe

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• Mar 11, 2015

• #9

I wouldn't trust the 2011 mix over the current mix for obvious reasons, everyone's been learning over the past 4 years so things change slightly for the better I think as time goes on (at least with soil mixes and science)

BAS and Coots are tight so I would trust BAS like it were the old Coot talking himself

 

F

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• Mar 11, 2015

• #10

I really wanted to use gypsum and I've read before in the ROLS thread about a 2:1 oyster:gypsum ratio being updated but thought that maybe BAS did 1:1:1:1 ratio for easier, quicker packaging of the kit.

 

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kriya

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• Mar 18, 2015

• #11

Jeremy from BAS speaks to coot regularly and the mix sold is direct from coots suggestions. Jeremy is a solid guy and very transparent. Trust his advice he will lead you in the right direction.