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Matanuska Thundera ...who was Gary ?

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tazz11

back when I was in the navy I was in the dry docks across from settle Washington for 10 days .. cross the bay , I was one of the lucky ones and I got one day to go on shore leave . so I got 4 or 5 hours to find some weed and get high ...I took the fairy to settle and when I got there , started walking up this big hill , a block up the hill I saw a 15 year old skateboarding ,ha kid come here , you know where I can find some smoke , he said the only person he knew that had any was this biker two blocks up ....but he did not sell the weed he had . I said let me talk to him ..two blocks up the hill on the right second floor . there was a Harley chain to a post , a big 71or 72 Electra guild all chromed out ,some would think it was a 76 or 77 but the brakes were different on the 71 and 72 ..
I walked up and knocked
a short brown haired thin dude answered the door you know where I can get some smoke .. ?
I don't sell weed go away .. dude I don't have time for this do you got weed or not . I got cash ..

I need gas money . come in . your not a cop are ya . ya right .. you smoking already this morning .. no ,...lol I don't got a lot dude ... i am not a dealer , he had a two room kitchen and bed room apt with a closet ...in that closet was 5 plants a shity dich weed ugly f*cker and a nice father in a clear plastic bag taped up and 3 others females ..

he said one was his main mother plant a Matanuska thundera some called it Alaska can thunder fuck . but he said its real name was Matanuska thundera ..and he was breeding the strain for over a year ... she was almost dry on the stalk , he said I can only cut maybe one bud she is a rare mother plant .. I said any is better then none ...he said is $60 to much i need gas money to go to Alaska ...I said Alaska that cost a little more dude that Harley is not like my 1300 Goldwing i threw $100 on the bed and said lets do it .. he lol said thanks dude . what's your name anyway ...i said i am Tazz11 ,but my friends call me Apollo ,that's a odd name . no . my brothers all have names of astronauts ,my dad was a USAF he named them and i have his meddle name so i don't so they started nicknaming me Apollo , he said that's a cool name Apollo 11 . i was going to say no its just Apollo but he started to cut up the bud ... and we talk for a 1/2 hour ,he told me how he wanted to put this mother plant in his rain coat and set it on his lap and ride to Alaska in a rain storm ,, i said he sounded nuts and he lol and rolled two joints . the first one we smoke about 1/3 of it and i put it in the ash tray . and stood up . i was very high and said . your right that is some of the best i ever smoked ... and said i got to go , he said thanks for the Gas money dude . i said thank you i would still be walking up this big a** hill looking to get high ...lol he said his name was Gary ...and i said nice to meet you gary ..shook hands and i walked away .

i know what 5 plants that were in that closet were . i don't know if that was a grimm , he never gave his last name and i was a 2lt of a gang so i never ask ..

but i can tell you something i could make this strain base ,i know for a fact i can .. i just don't grow any more ....

he was honest to me and i never wanted to give away his strain info ...until the later 90's i did not know there was Grimm brother's ...i don't know if he is still out there ... he was just a biker dude named Gary breeding plants in a small closet grow, he did say one thing i found interesting . when i took the first hit . i said i had smoked a strain a weeks before that tasted very close to that and he ask where , i told him a old biker friend had a mother plant a little bigger then his and he said that was the mother of his plant ,that guy i knew ...smoked with a few times ...we thought it was odd that i had smoked the mother of his plant ,,what are the odds of that he said ... and yes i can confirm what i said here ...

Matanuska thundera is still one of the strongest weeds i ever smoked .

see you can say this is all BS but i can not change my brothers names ,you dum a**es .. and it dose not matter any more i don't grow any more ...

i just thought someone should know ...

i was there in February of 1979,,,,i guess his brother lived out side of Anchorage ....

who was Gary ,, i don't know ... he was breeding the strain called Matanuska thundera and he did have the mother plant and the father there in the closet ...


a few weeks ago i was going threw strain bases , and i ran across a phenol type that matches the mother i saw ,i think i can back cross it easy knowing what the mother and father strains are ..

i just don't grow any more so it dose not matter really..

i think Gary was a Grimm , the other 2 mother's in that closet match the strain bases of the Grimm brothers

Gary would be about 55 or 56 now and still riding chromed out Harley big boys ,,,,most likely still living in the settle area ...

Gary you still out there ? , this is Apollo
 
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hello , I was doing some research tonight and ran into a few interesting details ..

I never really knew where Anchorage Alaska was ,so I wanted to see where it was on a map .. its on a bay and if you go to the north of Anchorage you are in Matanuska valley, he said "his brother lived out side of Anchorage..." I never knew where Anchorage or Matanuska valley was ...lol
 
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when was the last time anyone saw the Grimm brothers . and dose anyone know them directly ...?
 

bambi

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Best shit ever I agree mate, best shit or strain I tried was reffermans pure KODIAK GOLD, this is a island in Alaska somewhere, refer has since lost this strain,

I made a cross with mine back in 2006 and posted it up here on site, be in the archives I reckon, was a heavy hitter with the notorious creeper like quality coming on in the cross stone also, high in cbd's and put folks to sleep with in 20 minutes sometimes,
Yeah it was the shit, the shit of all shit there was, the shit that's the shit in other words. - come on Gary or GAZ get this shit back online in seed form please, I dunno this gary guy by the way)
 
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Best shit ever I agree mate, best shit or strain I tried was reffermans pure KODIAK GOLD, this is a island in Alaska somewhere, refer has since lost this strain,

I made a cross with mine back in 2006 and posted it up here on site, be in the archives I reckon, was a heavy hitter with the notorious creeper like quality coming on in the cross stone also, high in cbd's and put folks to sleep with in 20 minutes sometimes,
Yeah it was the shit, the shit of all shit there was, the shit that's the shit in other words. - come on Gary or GAZ get this shit back online in seed form please, I dunno this gary guy by the way)

maybe you all don't under stand what i am saying yet ,maybe this well help ...

thanks Gary ...i know how your created your strains now ... you rock ....!
 
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Gary

you did not answer ... are you still out there . its different now then it was back then ..you still playing guitar for that band .... its just a web site dude .. talk to me .. so how did your brother die dude .. my brother died too .. it sucks . talking will help some ...

i wonder if big jacks bike rusted away to nothing ...lol he never road the fucking thing i know of ...lol it would be worth a mint today if it was not a rust pile ...

i got a bad bike dude ... i love ridding the back roads ....you and me are in the same boat dude ..

i cant smoke any more and i love the taste and high ... its like those wild women .. just cant spank them enough ...lol

if you ever want to make some new strains ... let me know .. i will get on my bike and be there in a few days
 
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Gary ,I know who you are , so who is ( sly and soul ) ..?

they are not the brothers Grimm and yes I can prove it...
 
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OK they say there the real Grimm ,lets see them prove it . ...lol

How did they make Matanuska thundera ..? if they made it they know what the mother and father are ...

now I know for fact how Gary made it ...

come on you so called Grimm... lets here it big shots , what was the mother and father of the Matanuska Thundera ... ?

sorry you can not lie your way out of this one ....lol
 

yortbogey

To Have More ... Desire Less
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ok fella ... what are U attempting to prove....
the bros grimm have been out of bizniz for 10+ yrs... now
so what are U after to discredit there work....
many folks would disagreed.... C99 was and is still the holy grail to sum....
and all of the projects these guys worked on had serious breeding, and work done...

U are beatting a dead horse....

FYI... for a long time....ANY weed grown in the Matanuska valley...was considered to be the Alaska thunder fuck....
BUT there always was the rumor of a specific clone only.... that was around wasilla, and palmer....
A sativa / indica / Ruderalis hybrid that responded well outdoors to the 24hr sun in the Alaskan summer....

............"Alaskan ThunderFuck aka Matanuska Tundra is a hybrid originally bred for potency in the early 70’s from Northern California Sativa bagseed and Russian Ruderalis genetics. This strain was reworked in 1975-‘76 with the introduction of Afghan to its gene pool"

then Sagarmartha Seeds....reworked it....

This variety brings back that majestic legendary marijuana from the great Alaskan Northland. Highly recommended by the best fishing and hiking guides in the Matanuska Valley. The buds are huge and rock-hard as Denali "Mt. McKinley" herself. Intense flavor, chocolate aroma and potency have combined to form the densest variety we have had the pleasure of producing thus far.

A glacier of THC crystals frosts her colas and she packs more power than an icepack polar bear. Medical patients have mentioned that she is very beneficial for persons with pain ailments. The "creeper" quality of the smoke comes on slow and smooth, like a hike up a majestic mountain peak.

Enjoy the view, with a smile on your face and a gleam in your bloodshot eyes. Persons prone to altitude sickness should use caution.

* Type: Indica, indoor and outdoor
* Vegetate until: 4 - 7 internodes
* Flowering time: 60-70 days
* Average height: 0.5 - 0.75 meter
* Yield: 350 - 375 grams / m² (dried, indoor)
* High: powerfully sedative.
* Smell: rich chocolate flavor


and then Brothers Grimm did there work....

Breeder's Description - 'Matanuska Thunder'
The Brothers Grimm are happy to offer this mysterious strain after receiving numerous requests. BG began with a clone obtained from an Alaskan biker who has been growing it for years up north. Mantanuska is a 40/60 Sativa/Indica hybrid, bred for an indoor environment. These plants produce enormous, rock-hard buds with an intensely skunky smell and flavor, not to mention the legendary high.



SO whatthen????? hope this answers any questions.....
 
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tazz11

ok fella ... what are U attempting to prove....
the bros grimm have been out of bizniz for 10+ yrs... now
so what are U after to discredit there work....
many folks would disagreed.... C99 was and is still the holy grail to sum....
and all of the projects these guys worked on had serious breeding, and work done...

U are beatting a dead horse....

FYI... for a long time....ANY weed grown in the Matanuska valley...was considered to be the Alaska thunder fuck....
BUT there always was the rumor of a specific clone only.... that was around wasilla, and palmer....
A sativa / indica / Ruderalis hybrid that responded well outdoors to the 24hr sun in the Alaskan summer....

............"Alaskan ThunderFuck aka Matanuska Tundra is a hybrid originally bred for potency in the early 70’s from Northern California Sativa bagseed and Russian Ruderalis genetics. This strain was reworked in 1975-‘76 with the introduction of Afghan to its gene pool"

then Sagarmartha Seeds....reworked it....

This variety brings back that majestic legendary marijuana from the great Alaskan Northland. Highly recommended by the best fishing and hiking guides in the Matanuska Valley. The buds are huge and rock-hard as Denali "Mt. McKinley" herself. Intense flavor, chocolate aroma and potency have combined to form the densest variety we have had the pleasure of producing thus far.

A glacier of THC crystals frosts her colas and she packs more power than an icepack polar bear. Medical patients have mentioned that she is very beneficial for persons with pain ailments. The "creeper" quality of the smoke comes on slow and smooth, like a hike up a majestic mountain peak.

Enjoy the view, with a smile on your face and a gleam in your bloodshot eyes. Persons prone to altitude sickness should use caution.

* Type: Indica, indoor and outdoor
* Vegetate until: 4 - 7 internodes
* Flowering time: 60-70 days
* Average height: 0.5 - 0.75 meter
* Yield: 350 - 375 grams / m² (dried, indoor)
* High: powerfully sedative.
* Smell: rich chocolate flavor


and then Brothers Grimm did there work....

Breeder's Description - 'Matanuska Thunder'
The Brothers Grimm are happy to offer this mysterious strain after receiving numerous requests. BG began with who ha clone obtained from an Alaskan bikeras been growing it for years up north. Mantanuska is a 40/60 Sativa/Indica hybrid, bred for an indoor environment. These plants produce enormous, rock-hard buds with an intensely skunky smell and flavor, not to mention the legendary high.



SO whatthen????? hope this answers any questions.....

no problem ..


":the bros Grimm have been out of bizniz for 10+ yrs... now
so what are U after to discredit there work....
"

if it was not the real Grimm brothers then its not their work in the first place is it ...?

you don't get it .. Gary was one of the best in the world I have seen his genetics , I can only judge them by the over 8700 strains I have grown and 29 Dutch flower strain bases ,so I do know what I am talking about ...


"obtained from an Alaskan biker as been growing it for years up north. Mantanuska is a 40/60 Sativa/Indica hybrid,"

this statement is BS , I can believe Gary was the biker that's about it .see you can not make the real Matanuska thundera with those strains .. imposable ...that's total Bull shit ...and yes I can prove it ..knowing how the real strain was created there is no question what so ever who is right ..if they can make Matanuska thundera with those strains I want to see them do it ...

if they have nothing to hide and they are that good lets see them prove it ...

............"Alaskan ThunderFuck aka Matanuska Tundra is a hybrid originally bred for potency in the early 70’s from Northern California Sativa bagseed and Russian Ruderalis genetics. This strain was reworked in 1975-‘76 with the introduction of Afghan to its gene pool"

what a punch of BS .. they don't know what was in the real strain base ...
 

yortbogey

To Have More ... Desire Less
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fine... if what U say is correct then step up... shine sum light... and PROVE IT...
otherwise... this thread is headed NO where...
U have discredited EVER known source i listed.... WHICH is all common accepted info...

So please explain what U know.... or just put the keyboard down, and take a break...

plz....

FYI ..very few strain are originals ..breed by the original breeder....
Bros grimm never claimed to have created MTF.... they just work the genetic to what they liked and made sum beans so others could try a close variation.....
thats what most do know a days....
 

pappy masonjar

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8700 different strains huh?
Thats a lot.

I lost count and im prolly only at 100. You must keep records or have a hell of a memory to be that exact. 8700. Ha!
You got a bridge i can buy??

And please, enlighten us all. Whats MT made from?



P.S. My favorite part is where he starts trying to talk "Gary" into coming "out of hiding". LOL
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Gary

you did not answer ... are you still out there . its different now then it was back then ..you still playing guitar for that band .... its just a web site dude .. talk to me .. so how did your brother die dude .. my brother died too .. it sucks . talking will help some ...

i wonder if big jacks bike rusted away to nothing ...lol he never road the fucking thing i know of ...lol it would be worth a mint today if it was not a rust pile ...

i got a bad bike dude ... i love ridding the back roads ....you and me are in the same boat dude ..

i cant smoke any more and i love the taste and high ... its like those wild women .. just cant spank them enough ...lol

And when did this happen?? When did you meet Gary? like 20-30 years ago? So he told you his brother died 20-30 years ago and your now telling him talking about it will help??? wtf?
 
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kinda weird thread dude


And if u know what the parents of MT are, please do tell.


OK you ask me nicely and I can no longer smoke and I don't grow any more so I don't have any real risk do I ..

Matanuska thundera :
the mother plant was 3 1/2 years old plant about 14-16 inches high and was a light bright colored green ,with a little lemony light soft pine taste but not to much and had a slow creeper effect for about 10-12 mins .then hit you like a time warp. its father was a NL from the Vancouver area of BC Canada ...,and its mother was from a California pure indicia from the San Clemente area .all 3 were growning in soil ....

look at the Swiss marijuana seed company they are trying to re-make the strain base, they have a Mini thunder fuck seeds strain base trim off the lower branches and top it out a little fuller and manicure it and there is a very close plant to the real Matanuska thundera ..


great work Swiss !
 
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8700 different strains huh?
Thats a lot.

I lost count and im prolly only at 100. You must keep records or have a hell of a memory to be that exact. 8700. Ha!
You got a bridge i can buy??

And please, enlighten us all. Whats MT made from?



P.S. My favorite part is where he starts trying to talk "Gary" into coming "out of hiding". LOL


And when did this happen?? When did you meet Gary? like 20-30 years ago? So he told you his brother died 20-30 years ago and your now telling him talking about it will help??? wtf?

no wonder you lost count ...lol
 
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tazz11

fine... if what U say is correct then step up... shine sum light... and PROVE IT...
otherwise... this thread is headed NO where...
U have discredited EVER known source i listed.... WHICH is all common accepted info...

So please explain what U know.... or just put the keyboard down, and take a break...

plz....

FYI ..very few strain are originals ..breed by the original breeder....
Bros grimm never claimed to have created MTF.... they just work the genetic to what they liked and made sum beans so others could try a close variation.....
thats what most do know a days....

unless you see a lot of 14-16 inch sativa around .. I think already made my point ..
 

Elmer Bud

Genotype Sex Worker AKA strain whore
Veteran
no problem ..



you don't get it .. Gary was one of the best in the world I have seen his genetics , I can only judge them by the over 8700 strains I have grown and 29 Dutch flower strain bases ,so I do know what I am talking about ...


G`day Taz

I call Bullshit on that statement .
8729 strains . !???

Let`s see . 290 strains per year over 30 years = 8700

Maybe just half a prozac next time eh ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
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