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DO NOT EAT [ farm raised ] TILAPIA

yortbogey

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DO NOT EAT TILAPIA
Greetings and Salutations...

I read several articles on Google about this, and even one that was defending the eating of tilapia said to avoid the fish that came from China. Also, I had just
returned home from buying Publix & Albertson's 4-day special of 4 bags of frozen tilapia for the price of one. Sure enough, on the top of the bags, it read "farm raised", and on the bottom in small print it said, "China".

I recently saw a Food inspector on TV... He said he had lived overseas and he had seen the filthy conditions their foods are raised and processed in.

It is enough to make you throw up. Some foreign workers have to wear masks as they work in these places, because the food is so rotten and filthy, it makes them want to throw up. Many of their Fish on Fish Farms are fed Raw sewage daily. He said he has seen so much filth throughout their food growing and processing that he would "never" eat any of it. They raise this filth , put some food coloring and some flavorings on it, then they ship it to the USA for YOU to consume and feed to YOUR families. They have no Food & Safety Inspectors. They ship it to you to buy and poison your families and friends. Imported food we eat and the junk we buy

Green Giant frozen vegetables are from China , and so are most of Europe's Best.
Arctic Gardens are Okay. So is Birdseye.

Never buy the grocery store garlic unless it is clearly marked from USA or Canada, the other stuff is grown in people poop (even worse than chicken poop). China is the largest producer of garlic in the world U.S. is next.

Buy only local honey, much honey is shipped in huge containers from China and re-packed here.

Cold-FX is grown and packed in China and is full of fecal bacteria. Doesn't work anyway, big scam. If the country of origin is not clearly marked beware. If produce, ask an employee.

Watch out for packages which state "prepared for", "packed by" or "imported by". I don't understand the lack of mandatory labeling, especially the produce. The country of origin should be clearly shown on the item in the store. I go to the local farmers' markets in season and keep a wary eye open the rest of the year.

Please read this very carefully, and read to the very bottom. It's important for all of us.

How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it produced in the U.S. or Canada?

FOR EXAMPLE
THE "OUR FAMILY" BRAND OF MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON THE CAN 'FROM
CHINA '. SO, FOR A FEW MORE CENTS, BUY THE LIBERTY BRAND. GOLD BRAND OR THE DOLE IS FROM CALIFORNIA Beware, Costco sells canned peaches and pears in a plastic jar that come from China.

ALL "HIGH LINER" AND MOST OTHER FROZEN FISH PRODUCTS COME FROM CHINA OR INDONESIA. THE PACKAGE MAY SAY "PACIFIC SALMON" ON THE FRONT, BUT LOOK FOR THE SMALL PRINT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS COME FROM FISH FARMS IN THE ORIENT WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS ON WHAT IS FED TO THESE FISH.

Recently The Montreal Gazette had an article by the Canadian Government on how Chinese feed the fish: They suspend chicken wire crates over the fish ponds, and the fish feed on chicken s--t. If you search the Internet about what the Chinese feed their fish, you'll be alarmed; e.g., growth hormones, expired anti-biotic from humans. Never buy any type of fish or shellfish that comes from these countries:
Vietnam,
China,
Philippines.

Check this out personally. I did. Steinfeld's Pickles are made in India - just as bad!

Another example is in canned mushrooms. No-Name brand came from Indonesia.

Also check those little fruit cups. They used to be made in Canada in the Niagara region until about 2 years ago. They are now packaged in China !

While the Chinese export inferior and even toxic products, dangerous toys, and goods to be sold in North American markets, the media wrings its hands!

Yet, 70% of North Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended!

Well, duh! Why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges?

SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, CANADA AND THE U.S.

Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says 'Made in China' or 'PRC' (and that now includes Hong Kong ), simply choose another product, or none at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on Chinese products, and you will be equally amazed at what you can do without.

THINK ABOUT THIS:

If 200 million North Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that's a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor... fast! The downside? Some Canadian/American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory.

Just one month of trading losses will hit the Chinese for 8% of their North American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness are worth it.

START NOW and don't stop.

Send this to everybody you know. Let's show them that we are intelligent, and NOBODY can take us for granted.
 
Aquaponics is awesome. However, in order to ensure that the fish are healthy and happy you'd need to stock the fish tank with fewer of them as to avoid overcrowding, which decreases the "efficiency" of the operation; also with fewer fish in the tank you can only grow fairly low feeding crops - lettuces and such. Still, a very feasible model with the right amount of cash and planning.
 

Jamorg13

Member
Just started raising my own tilapia, can't wait to harvest a few!

I have been trying my best to go china free on EVERYTHING, and went wal-mart free on January first this year. Still haven't gave in. Like you said, you will be surprised with how well you can actually manage without chinese shit.

I do however, still frequent peopleofwalmart.com on occasion.
 

audiohi

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Actually, commercial systems can have fairly dense stocking of tilapia and achieve happy healthy fish. With a balance of proper feeding routines, dissolved oxygen levels, sufficient solid removal, and biologic controls you will see your fish grow at a very precise condition factor. Anything other then well documented results indicates you have a problem. Therefore the health of your fish will be immediately apparent. In aquaponics, efficiency is key! If you aren't on top of your fish health, you probably wont be in business long! Most find it difficult to see significant profit from aquaponics alone. Therefore any loss in weight, or worst case scenario, fish or crop loss would be crushing to the business!

As far as crops that can be grown aquaponically... I'd have to respectfully disagree on that one also. Leafy crops work great, but so do many other things. Tomatoes are amazing. I've seen watermelons, peppers, strawberries...

I guess there are always varying levels of success with the delicate balance needed for fish, bacteria, and plant happiness. But once you figure out how to make the formulas work in your system... you will have amazing, sustainable, healthy food!
 

Stinkymutt

Active member
I watched a show a few years ago that was taped in the states. It was about Tilapia that were being raised in the final stages of sewage treatment plants . They also showed fish raised in ponds but the central focus was on the ones in sewage. The big concerns were not the "waste" itself but the chemicals that are in the sewage like drain cleaners and such and heavy metals . Kinda ruined my appetite for tilapia at all ?
 

Painfull

Active member
I knew about this years ago and on youtube they had a video of it where raw sewage is going into the water way where they have their fish farm. It's just pouring out of large pipes. If you buy or eat out and get sea food make sure you know where it comes from. Just buy USA.

:puke:
 

Polodown

New member
I read about this the other day, its disgusting!

for a couple years now I have been mostly farmers market and organic foods
 
Actually, commercial systems can have fairly dense stocking of tilapia and achieve happy healthy fish. With a balance of proper feeding routines, dissolved oxygen levels, sufficient solid removal, and biologic controls you will see your fish grow at a very precise condition factor. Anything other then well documented results indicates you have a problem. Therefore the health of your fish will be immediately apparent. In aquaponics, efficiency is key! If you aren't on top of your fish health, you probably wont be in business long! Most find it difficult to see significant profit from aquaponics alone. Therefore any loss in weight, or worst case scenario, fish or crop loss would be crushing to the business!

As far as crops that can be grown aquaponically... I'd have to respectfully disagree on that one also. Leafy crops work great, but so do many other things. Tomatoes are amazing. I've seen watermelons, peppers, strawberries...

Well, technically speaking you can have a heavily stocked recirculating aquaculture system full of healthy fish. As with raising any animals increasing the number of individuals per unit of "growing space" proportionally raisises the chances of disease. As you know, heavily stocked systems may results in more aggressive fish behavior towards each other which translates into dead individuals. Lets not ignore the fact that high intensity farming requires the use of antibiotics in a prophylactic manner; as you've indicated a loss of either fish or vegetable crop would put most people out of business.
The only way to grow heavy feeding crops in an aquaponic system would be by having a heavily stocked fish tank, so that the water contains enough nutrients to feed the plants before getting to the bio-filter and back to the fish. More fish = more feces = stronger nutes
I have a 12'x24' greenhouse which is used for personal food production. I already have a NFT system for growing greens; when I have some time in the fall I'm planning to add a modest recirculating aquaculture system. I would like to dial in the fish first, so to say and then combine the NFT with the aquaculture for an aquaponic system. My goal isnt peak efficiency but rather maintaining the system in a state of equilibrium. Since I'm not growing heavy feeding crops, I'm planning to keep a moderately stocked tank. I want every fish to be happy and healthy. After all its all for personal use, lol.
 

gonzo`

Member
farmed shrimp from india/vietnam/thailand/china etc... stay far away from.. they are basically shit pits full of shrimp... expired anti-biotics are tossed in there to control disease... nasty stuff...

anyway its not just chinese produce u need to avoid... american is just as bad.. growth hormones, antibiotics, gm feed.... feel bad for u guys...
 

joe guy

Member
Ok so no on the commi farm fish fruit or veggies.. What about wild caught Indo Chinese pinay fish? Are they still good to go? I'm curious I never buy farmed fish from any country but have and do but wild caught fish from those country's ?
Gona have to do a google search on this to make me feel better for not buying color added fish lol wtf... Color added? No thanks I like my red meat fish naturally red..
Not down for white salmon lol
 

audiohi

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All valid points Dr!

I recently saw an application using 250 pounds of coy fish in a 1000 gallon tank supporting lush growth in DWC rafts of multiple crop varieties. This was accomplished by making use of a media bed in conjunction with the DWC troughs for the larger root crops and a lot of worms. These two systems ran in series with each other. The minuscule density of fish was offset by the solid mineralization in the media beds providing ample nutrients for the system. Just throwing that out there for you! It's a really great way I thought to minimize your fish! And the water tends to stay crystal clear!

You're absolutely making the right choice to take it step by step! Once you have the system going, it can be hard to make changes.

Good luck bro!
 
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HUGE

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DO eat farm raised tilapia from local aquaponic farms.

What's funny about this is in our state in order to raise talapi you have to get a license to own game fish and have to pay a fee to the state for every fish you have.
 

audiohi

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What's funny about this is in our state in order to raise talapi you have to get a license to own game fish and have to pay a fee to the state for every fish you have.

That's rough!

Laws regulating fish in regards to aquaponics are a lot of times complicated, restrictive or overall outdated. Luckily little by little, local and state agencies are starting to see the positives and are changing to allow aquaponics the ability to operate within the community.
 

subrob

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Don't really like to eat fish that are used as filters...regardless of where they from
 
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