What type of documents to display outside of your legal MMJ grow room

Hi, I am curious to get an answer to this question and sadly i need to know within a very short amount of time.

Evidently tomorrow my landlord will be entering my house to inspect the property with a tax professional and an appraiser. Now, chances are that they will be satisfied to see the main living areas of the house but there is one bed room that has a small 4' x 4' grow tent containing 13 plants. This room is securely locked but my concern it that i will be recieving a phone call mid-day tomorrow to grant access to this room. If that is the case and I HAVE TO open this door what type of documents should be prominitly displayed outside my my grow. (fixed to the outside of the tent.) The Tent has locks on all the zippers and could not be opened without totally slicing the tent to shreads.

At the moment my current doctors recommendation is fixed to the outside of the tent. I am right now drafting a letter to any authority figure who may read it, that states that i am within my prop 215 and senate bill 420 rights to cultivate for PERSONAL USE. Only i have access to the medication and it is in no way for distribution. I also am citing Health and Saftey code 11362.5

is there anything in addition that i can do to avoid potentially having to go to court over this matter if the state tax man decides he would like to have the san diego police make a judgement call if this is a legal garden or not. I am aware of my rights and have a few lawyers names in my phone in case i need to call. but i would rather explain to them before it gets to that point that i am a medical patients that uses medical marijuana for various conditions and am also a productive member of society. I do not see myself as a criminal but i need to makde sure they understand this before potentially having to prove so in court.

thanks. any help is appreciated.

anyine have experience with this type of situation? if so, what was the outcome?

Maybe the most simple solution would be to be there in person nicely asking the inspector to speak quiet because your wife is sleeping (in the questioned bedroom) after she had been working a 36 hour shift @ the hospital.

Good luck man!

Here is the letter that i am going to be posting along side of my doctors recommendation on the outside of the grow tent.

Not to shabby if i may say so myself. Anyone that feels this could be useful to them PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPRODUCE AT WILL


To whom it may concern,

This letter serves as a notice to confirm that the referenced legal medical marijuana garden is in full compliance with the State of California proposition 215 (the compassionate use act of 1996) in accordance with health and safety code 11362.5 as well as the Senate Bill 420 (passed 9/20/2003, signed by Governor 10/13/2003, effective Jan 1, 2004).

Written and oral approval or recommendation of a physician, to use marijuana for medical purposes without fear of criminal liability under Sections 11357 and 11358 of the Health and Safety Code were provided by Dr XXXXXXXXXXX MD. Please see corresponding original documentation of said recommendation attached to this document. This recommendation was authorized on XXXXXth 2009, with one year validity until an additional follow up evaluation will be undertaken sometime before XXXXXXth, 2010. In this case my reevaluation of my conditions will occur within the next few weeks to ensure no lapse in coverage of legal protection. I have been a patient of Dr. XXXXXX for X years now for the condition noted on my recommendation citing XXXXX, XXXXXXX and XXXXXXXXX for which medical marijuana consistently provides the most effective relief without the unnecessary side effects of prescription medications.

I state that the marijuana cultivated in this garden fully abides by California legal guidelines and is for personal use only by the patient for which it is recommended. Patient Name: XXXXXXXXXXX. In no case is this medicine distributed to anyone other then it is intended for.

If there is any question regarding the legality of said garden please feel free to contact me on my cell phone at XXX-XXX-XXXX and I will be happy to entertain and questions or discussion related to this matter. This garden provides no monetary gain for myself as a patient and is solely intended to provide medicine without fear of contaminated medication that may have been subject to pesticides or other non-organic sources of nutrition that maybe unhealthy to ingest.

Please feel free to contact me. As a productive and contributing member of society I only hope to retain the level of respect and admiration that I receive without the knowledge of my use of medical marijuana. Unfortunately after proven medical advantages some stereotypes still sometimes accompany the use of medical marijuana. My job and relationships are of the highest importance to me and if there should be a discussion regarding this matter I would prefer to keep it private between my doctor, myself and any related parties such as my landlord.

Thank you in advance for your respect.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXX

Man, your landlord can probably kick you out if he doesn't like it. If not over pot he'll find another way to do it. Can't you stash the girls in your car for a couple hours? Paperwork really only helps with cops, but won't mean shit to your landlord. Good luck man!

throw out the 420 part - it has been found unconstitutional
put a copy of prop 215 - the compassionate use act of 1996 and the h&s code up and show your current original rec to them if asked
be present for the intrusion
don't worrie

i guess i will likely know by tomorrow evening how it goes..

chances are they do not attempt to enter the locked bedroom. Otherwise, the breakdown the door or call me to have me come open it.

either way, i'll know something soon.

I doubt the cops would prosecute a legal grow of this small scale but technically i am 1 plant over my plant count. 13. I was informed by my doctor that the worst that would happen (regarding the cops) is they would have me remove the one over. BUT, cali law says that i can have 6 mature plants OR 12 immature. right now i have 13 mature because i understand that the plant count ruling was overturned by the courts stating that the law cannot decide how much medicine is adaquite for a patient.

anyway, would the cops try to take me to court? I am prepared to call my lawyer if that is the case.

otherwise, the biggest concern is my landlord and the threat of eviction. Since i have been living here (2.5 years) we have had nothing but an excellent relationship. Never late in rent payments, never ask for him to fix anything. I even help the neighbors with yard work and taking their trash out to the street. they are all really cool people. Anyways, the landlord has come down a few times to have beers with my roommates and I and we have been invited to his house for some parties too. I really doubt that he would want to ruin our relationship over this little garden.

if that is my only concern i think i am good.

time will tell.

thanks all for your help. especially my friend that sent me the very detailed PM. thanks a million. very knowledgable.

i post my shit inside my tent; no need to advertise... med rec and my exemption are right next to each other taped to the walls.. u don't have to do anything more than that

opt1c said:

i post my shit inside my tent; no need to advertise... med rec and my exemption are right next to each other taped to the walls.. u don't have to do anything more than that

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i did think of that.. hmmmm.

i think they would be able to figure it out without the rec on the outside tho... since its locked i assume they would then want to involve the cops to get it open, only then finding out that its legal.

my letter of exemption will be fullfilled at my next appointment in a few weeks.

thanks!

100% cops can't do shit ....90% he kicks you out

remember u can use a tent as a darkroom to develop photos... u like to use antique equipment u store at ur aunts house but u develop the photos in the tent in ur apartment as u can use the fans and dehumidifiers to keep the environment optimal for the photos without exposing em to light

You are a Soldier in this instance.

Be kind but be sure to make them know they are invading your home.

Be sure to have them be clear why they need entry to that room.

When they go tell them they are in your home not theirs.

When they reach and you seem confident and they are told they are intruding that will be the thing but by all means be there when they come.

If you are there there will be less chance you will be arrested on the job.

Remember LEO can arrest first and prove things later.

Shall we look to Sun Tzu and the Art of war in these cases?

Make sure you are the army on high ground.

It's legal for us medical folks but the people who are around us were told not to accept the truth and many don't.

My first response is be there! Be in command and make sure they absolutly have to enter that room.. Ask why. Take notes. Serious make a record of who said what and what happened,.
Be sure the people coming in have ID.. Just because they say something doesn't mean they are that something.

I will be meditating for you.

Post the results if you will.. We all need to learn.

Jack,

i will be sure to post any information i have. i searched the boards for someone with a similar experience but didnt find much. esp related to what documents to post (in addition to your rec). One thing is for sure, i will not be able to be home for the intrusion. In the case that they NEED access to the room they will have to call me and i will have to come home from work. Otherwise they will have to break down the door but that seems unreasonable. there is no smell, no sound, no lights. Nothing outside the room shows that there might be a grow going on.

If they do call me, i will come home and show my cards. being that i have a good relationship with my landlord should really help. My main concern i just not having to prove me innocence in court.

you bring up a good point, and a very disturbing one... if iwere to be arrested on the job my life would be fucked. I have worked 60 + hours a week at this job for the last four years and am on the cusp of a big promotion. that would be ruined if the cops picked me up at work. Resume deleted.

thanks for the heads up, although its not going to help me sleep better tonight.

i will be a soldier and i will report back tomorrow evening.

well don't post a thing.

They don't deserve that info. It can only hurt you to tell them.

It's like telling the Bank the mortgage holder has died and they lay claim to the estate of the deceased even if the mortgage is paid up.

Just tell them to fuck off.. It's your privacy.

You are the owner of the place while the rent is paid.

Just trying to raise the fight level in ya... You have more rights than you seem to think here from what i read.

sup bro? these are always tense times....are they coming out because the landlord is selling the house? or putting it on the market? if so, theres a good chance your landlord will want to keep renters in there til it does sell, and houses like yours aint easy to rent out in todays economy. im sure my landlord has been in my house with out permission...she is the one responsible for selling my place to a recently(at the time) retired out of state couple for appr 3 times what it is worth now...she will do anything(or not do anything haha) to keep me in the house now! good luck man and lemme know how it goes...

the home i rent is for sale..... i had to harvest my outdoor girls pre-maturely last season when the real-estate dude showed up....

i parked the 1k rig and built this small perpetual closet garden.... the flower room is half a closet.... the smaller veg box fits in the closet next to the flower box..... the ballast goes in, door slides closed, cut-off switch shuts down all juice to the fans and no one knows a thing....

the home owner was in last week with the new agent.... window shoppers come threw every other week or so.... takes about 10 min to go full stealth mode.....

my point being there are ways around everything.... you pay rent, it's your home... you're a legal grower in compliance with state law...if it comes down to them seeing your grow, it will be stressfull i'm sure..... but i don't think you'll end up in court or getting arrested at work....

be home and choose your words cleverly.... you may be able to keep them out of the room.....

let us know how it goes

yeah the guy is knocking the house down so he is having these people come by to determine the value and other shit. since its getting torn down soon (the next few months) i seriously doubt (99.5%) that he would opt not to be collecting rent money for those few months... he cant rent it to anyone else that would be cool with moving in and moving out in a month or two.

Hey Homie,
No words of wisdom here but I'm hoping the best for you!

I'd keep the door locked and ignore any calls you get while they are there, but listen to any messages they leave right away.

I highly doubt they will break the door down, I would think not being able to see into one bedroom should not have that much effect on the apprasial of a place they're tearing down.

Hey Nota,

I post everything inside my areas, I agree there isn't a reason to advertise. However if they ask, you tell em exactly whats up. Explain the medical need portion.

As to the laws about getting kicked out over it, I would assume they can still evict based on growing - but also consider that most people don't like being sued, and I would assume given the recent high court decision that removing a sick patient from their home because they simply need to take their medication sounds like a lawsuit I wouldn't want to be in..

I wish you the best bud!

Natagonnaworrie said:

yeah the guy is knocking the house down so he is having these people come by to determine the value......
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That is a really strange thing to do IMO.

Normally the process described by you earlier is done when a house is being sold, a lien being put on it, the mortgage being refinanced and a few other instances.

But having it's value determined because of being torn down is a new one.

At least to me it is.