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Tropic
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As you said, S_a_H, photoperiod-independent plants are a criteria in my book. As an example, I grow autos on a balcony (amongst other locations), which sometimes receives light at night when we spend time there. Most regular strains would have either not flowered, or hermied on me because of light stress. Autos allow for a nice harvest of nice herb without having to worry about these issues.
Hey habeeb, I would go as far as 10 weeks from germ to harvest, it doesn't bother me to wait a couple weeks more if the results prove worthy. Last auto I harvested was done at 66 days (just over 9 weeks) and I almost let it go to 70 but eventually didn't.
I don't consider the low profile to be essential, I can easily understand that autos provide a stealthy alternative to regular plants, however both can be trained, and I believe bigger autos provide a bigger harvest. But everyone has slightly different expectations when it comes to autos, which I think shows how great these plants are, they can fit most situations with just a little bit of tweaking/thinking.
Peace
Hey habeeb, I would go as far as 10 weeks from germ to harvest, it doesn't bother me to wait a couple weeks more if the results prove worthy. Last auto I harvested was done at 66 days (just over 9 weeks) and I almost let it go to 70 but eventually didn't.
I don't consider the low profile to be essential, I can easily understand that autos provide a stealthy alternative to regular plants, however both can be trained, and I believe bigger autos provide a bigger harvest. But everyone has slightly different expectations when it comes to autos, which I think shows how great these plants are, they can fit most situations with just a little bit of tweaking/thinking.
Peace
For sure it is not an autoflower if it does not flower under 24/7 light. If a pheno wants to flower under a 23/1 light cycle and veg under a 24/7 cycle i would not consider it auto cause you could clone it. Auto imo means it is a strain impossible to clone because it flowers off of age not light schedule.
what ChubbyNugs said... Autoflower by definition means it flowers automatically right? Height, finish time or anything else are not factors in determining that. However they ARE the more desireable traits for many people.
no offense to anyone, but if you want a short, 8 week finisher, blueberry fits the description... but is not an AF... well... the auto blue is...well you know what I mean..hehehe :smile:
no offense to anyone, but if you want a short, 8 week finisher, blueberry fits the description... but is not an AF... well... the auto blue is...well you know what I mean..hehehe :smile:
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IceColdCrickets
thanks for making this thread and the other one SaH, been saying there needs to be a standard for the meaning of AF for awhile now. AF strains must flower under 24 continuous light perday. Anything else isn't True AF.
You must know where to get authentic seeds of TRUE AF strains... there are so many knock-off sites selling AutoFlowering strain it is giving real AF pure seeds bad names due to poor results from these FAKE seeds. Is it possible to make a seedbank rating system on how thier AF stock stands up? Might weed out some of the knock-offs and save many people from getting crappy seed stock.
You must know where to get authentic seeds of TRUE AF strains... there are so many knock-off sites selling AutoFlowering strain it is giving real AF pure seeds bad names due to poor results from these FAKE seeds. Is it possible to make a seedbank rating system on how thier AF stock stands up? Might weed out some of the knock-offs and save many people from getting crappy seed stock.
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cyber echo
Agreed.
Anything that doesnt flower under 24/24 lights shouldnt be called AF.
Its quite simple, dont think theres much flexibility in the term.
Anything that doesnt flower under 24/24 lights shouldnt be called AF.
Its quite simple, dont think theres much flexibility in the term.
I agree with SAH that it must flower (not just throw preflowers out) under any light schedule, especially 24/0.
I don't think making a simple "something x AF" cross can be considered an AF either. Just cuz its got some AF genes in it doesn't mean anything if it doesn't truly Autoflower under 24 hrs of light.
I don't think making a simple "something x AF" cross can be considered an AF either. Just cuz its got some AF genes in it doesn't mean anything if it doesn't truly Autoflower under 24 hrs of light.
BlackMagic
Member
Word up, but 2 weeks and 24/0.
should be able to flower under 24/0 and not get any bigger than 2 feet start to finish
Flowering under 24 hours of light is what makes a true autoflowering plant. The size of the plant and the time that it starts to flower doesn't matter. I am personally breeding plants that take a little longer to show their flowers and to finish. I am more interested in a good yield and a heady sativa high than I am in fast flowering plant. I wouldn't mind an AF that takes 3 to 4 months to finish, if it can average 6 to 8 ounces outdoors and gives me a sativa high.
3 to 4 months to finish? you might as well just use regular seeds.
Regular seeds won't let you harvest a sativa strain such as Haze, or a sativa dominant strain such as Sour Diesel, Strawberry Cough, or Satori in the middle of summer. When these are made AF they will undoubtedly be longer flowering to retain their true characteristics. This allows people in colder climates to grow and finish sativa dominant strains before the frosts come.
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cyber echo
I think the main definition for AF should only be that it flowers under 24/0 (or any other light sched). Anything other than that is details to each particular strain whether it is tall, short, early, or whatever.
I dont think everyone wants a small AF. People who want AF primarily want it for the light schedule, mainly if they want to grow their seedlings and flowering plants in the same room instead of having two seperate rooms (for light scheduling reasons). Or if they cannot maintain a 12/12 schedule for some reason (outdoors, light leaks, etc)
There may be other reasons too, but thats up to the grower.
I dont think everyone wants a small AF. People who want AF primarily want it for the light schedule, mainly if they want to grow their seedlings and flowering plants in the same room instead of having two seperate rooms (for light scheduling reasons). Or if they cannot maintain a 12/12 schedule for some reason (outdoors, light leaks, etc)
There may be other reasons too, but thats up to the grower.
lowrdr
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would be interested to try something like that. dont think ive ever really experienced a truly sativa high. its all indica dominant stuff generally
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IceColdCrickets
Yes, it doesnt matter if it starts to flower in 2-4 weeks, or longer due to heavy Sativa influences, as long as they do it under 24 hour light and consistantly.
Bubblehashh
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I would like a plant that totally grows like a Indica but has Sativia high xD
Sister Sara
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Well, I have grown Easyryder (LR2 x auto ak47) 12/12 from seed to finish, and it produced 1 oz of good sticky bud in 10 weeks. The recommended cycle is 20/4 or 18/6, and I'm sure it would have finished faster and gotten a good deal more bud from it if I had followed it. Still, and extra week ain't much, and an ounce lasts me quite a while.
Auto Ak47 next time.
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