Super-Charge Yor Growing with Aeroponics !!

Excerpt Cut from my journal. I thought a copy would fit nice in the Hydro section:

Pirate’s DIY Low Pressure Aeroponic System for Dummies

Alrighty then:

I have had many requests for some info on my Aeroponic tables. This will serve as a tutorial for anyone interested in this style of growing. Now, there is a lot info around for DIY Aeroponic cloners and seed starters but we are going to shift our focus to BLOOMING tables this time. I don't claim to have all the answers on Aeroponics or to be some kind of authority. I'm only passing along what I found to be solid working ideas through actual usage in my grow room.

We will be building this unit: But I will discuss other options along the way.



How did I end up with that table ?
My very first grow was started in Rock-wool / Grow Rocks with Flood & Drain tables. I knew before I even started my 1st grow.........through pre-grow research, I was gonna end up with Aeroponics since it is the most advanced, technical & modern form of growing and that’s my personality. I always say "if Aeroponics is good enough for NASA......Its good enough for me". They have been using Aero for years in space. It’s the only practical method in zero gravity. (I have no gravity in my cave…..It can be a bitch)

With that said.........Aeroponics is FAR from hard and many people stay away from it because it’s always touted as being for "advanced growers". NOT SO. Don't be fooled........ANYONE can grow in Aero. After growing with DWC, Dirt, Coco, Ebb & Flo... I can honestly say.........Aero to me is the easiest. One of the benefits I like the most about any form of HYDRO in general is: When you make a change to say......PH or EC you see instant results in readings and the plant will respond within hours. Not so with dirt. Dirt can take days or even weeks to show a PH change and requires the soil to stabilize. I don't have weeks......... I have minutes when a parameter is off. I want it fixed now and I want to walk away KNOWING its right. Not find out 10 days from now that my changes didn't work or worst……….were wrong.

Now I am not bashing any other form of growing..........I am simply stating the reasons why I choose to use Aeroponics. All forms of growing have there place and there are "different strokes for different folks" so if your happy with what ya got going......... then by all means…........stick with it. But if your looking for a SUPERCHARGED growing experience or want to try something new. Give Aeroponics a whirl. You won’t be sorry.

I'm not going to go into detail about things like history and other Aero methods......if ya want that go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroponics I will say that there are various forms of Aeroponics with the 2 most common being......Low Pressure Aero & High Pressure Aero. We will deal with Low Pressure. I have considered High Pressure but the expense is WAY up there and with the results I am getting….. I don’t see a reason to upgrade. Not to mention.......High Pressure brings in a whole new level of problems with the pumps, jets or foggers required.

LOW PRESSURE AEROPONICS Uses regular fountain pumps (or similar) found at the hardware store, hydro shop, garden supply center or ?? You probably have 1 or 2 in your stash of goodies right now. LP Aero disperses a mist or spray through micro sprinklers, sprayers and/or misters. Everything can be purchased at your local hardware store and NOTHING special is required unless you want to use the FOGGER type unit which I will not go into here. (very expensive) A fogger can run $500.00 just for the fogger unit alone) Not me Baby!!!

HIGH PRESURE AEROPONICS Uses High Pressure pumps to create a very fine mist through high pressure rated pipes or hoses, sprayers or misters. It will require you to use special fittings and more elaborate construction methods. Everything involved will cost more and be more complicated. We will not use HP Aero for our DIY unit. K.I.S.S !!

There are many reason why I chose Low Pressure Aeroponics.

Here is a small list of PROs:

• 
  [*]Easy DIY setup (pre-made units are available for the less inclined to build)
  [*]100% of the materials can come from the hardware store. (for a basic unit)
  [*]Far less expensive than High Pressure
  [*]Simple maintenance
  [*]Spare parts are readily available
  [*]Easy and Fun
  [*]Supercharged growing experience (things can happen fast)
  [*]Fantastic results
  [*]Lots of hands on (spending time with your plants is a good thing and they will reward you for it)

Of course with everything there is a down side.

Here is a small list of CONs:

• 
  [*]Clogged Sprayers (Easily prevented. Explained later))
  [*]Pump Failure
  [*]Power Outages (Easily prevented. Explained later)
  [*]Requires more attention
  [*]Higher set up cost than dirt or Flood & Drain
  [*] Things can go wrong fast (but I have not lost a single crop yet) Knock on my wooden head)
  [*]DIY units will require special tools to build with (but again……there are many inexpensive pre-made units out there)

POWER FAILURES:
Before we go into anything else......lets get power failures out of the way. This idea can work for anyone that uses any system with a pump. A very simple way to prevent your garden from drying out in the event of a power failure is to install a Computer UPS backup system. You can grab one for $100.00 and it will run several pumps. ($100.00 is cheap insurance when your 90 days or so into a grow that might bring a pound of more). If power goes out for ANY REASON......The UPS (Universal Power Supply) will kick in and SAVE YOUR CROP !! This is especially important if your running Aeroponics since the moment water stops flowing........Your roots start to dry out. You don't have a lot of time if this happens. I did leave a pump off one time (like an idiot) and didn''t catch it for 18 hours. I thought I lost the whole crop but I saved it. I did lose 3 plants out of 48 though. The rest recovered and went on as if nothing happened. Now you don't need to have the UPS to run Aeroponics. I'm just mentioning it as an option if the possibility of losing power worries you. ( I do not have one if that makes ya feel any better) (But it is on my list of things to buy in the near future) Like I said.........Insurance.

I’m going to show ya 3 or 4 different units that I have built over the years. All are good and worked well. But the one I am going to HIGHLIGHT is my latest version and could be considered Commercial Quality. If ya saw it in person you would swear I bought it from a manufacturer. And it works quite well. I was never happy with my first 2 and was searching for an answer until one day I decided to convert a basic flood table I had to Aero. And you can do the same with the one ya got now.

One of the inspirations for going Aero was the DVD “See More Buds” “15 pounds in 80 days”. I actually went out and bought the same Aquamist Unit as shown in the film. But after spending 500 Golden Pieces….. I quickly said to myself (out-loud)………”I’m gonna have to build my own if I want more of these”. And that’s just what I did. But getting to my Battleship Model was a long learning process. Maybe I can save you the headaches.

Here is an Aquamist as seen in the DVD: It's a Pre-made unit that can cost $350 to $500. It is 24 x 46 inches and you can harvest a pound of dried bud from it but it's just to expensive to be practical if ya need more than one. It came with the 2 inch holes and I made the top with the 3 inch holes. I abandoned the 3 inch hole idea soon after. I'll explain later.





Shall we get to building our own? OH GOODIE !! My favorite part……….. building stuff.

I'm gonna show ya a few units to give you an idea to the range of possibilities. Use your imagination to build the unit that fits into your space. You can use anything that works for you and build it anyway you want. Its yours. I love to browes the hardware stores, lumber yards, thrift shops, etc to get ideas or find that tub, part or whatever I need or have been searching for. If your American.........Home Depot is the DIYers best friend.

UNIT #1 My DINGY !!This was my first attempt at some sort of Aeroponic plant starter. It's kind of cheesy but after a few years its still alive. I rarely use it much. Mostly sits on a shelf since I robbed a few parts from it for other things. Not going into details on how to build it. You get the idea. I bought the tub for $4.00 at a .99 cent store. (shouldn't it have been .99 cents ?) Total cost to build was around 25 or $30.00 with the pump costing the most.



GUTS


Next is the very first unit I built to flower in. This unit is good and I would suggest it as a first build. With the right strain you could get close 1 pound from it but 12 ozs is more practical for a strain giving up 12gs per plant in a SOG. It hold 32 plants. The tub is a MORTAR Mixer tray from Lowes and cost $12.00. The top is a 1/4 inch sheet of Plexi-glass with holes cut for 2 inch net cups. I painted the top with black paint and then 2 coats of white. Total build time is around 6 hours and total cost around $75.00 with the pump and plexi glass being the most money. Again.......I'm not gonna detail this unit. This is just to give you ideas: But I will give a headache saving tip. DO NOT use silicone or glue between the plexi lid and the tub. It will end up leaking because it just won't stick to the plastic. Use 1/2 round weather stripping and you will get ZERO leaks.

My first Aeroponic Bloom machine: My Cruiser Model



Micro Sprinkler close up:there are 3 of these



I like Cantalope


Sprayer Access points



Sprayer Access Lids:



Nutrient feed line and return to Rez



Ready to Grow:



The next generation:
I was browsing EBay one day and came across a guy that was selling all his hydro stuff. He started at $500.00 but he had a stipulation that it had to be picked up by a certain time. I am not sure why no one jumped on this but I made an offer of $250.00 and would pick it up the same day. (he was moving and was under the gun) I freaking scored on that buy for sure. When I drove up and he took me to the pile I was buying…….I about shit my pants !! I drove away with a pickup truck LOADED :whoohoo: so high with stuff that I had to use Plywood sides to contain it all. Among that load was 16 - GH Rain Forest units with Vortex sprayers. I came up with the idea of converting my first unit to utilize the vortex sprayer. (A vortex spray is basically a small motor incased in a plastic dome that has a funnel shaped tube extending down into a rez of water. As the tube spins it sucks the water up and sprays it out the top. They are pricy at $130.00 each but they are the bomb for Aeroponics and I got 16 of em for $250.00 (plus the rest of the truck load of nutrients, 2 x 4 trays, pumps fittings, hoses, buckets of gro rocks.....and tons more)

GH Vortex Sprayer;


Here is the conversion: My Nuclear Powered Cruiser Model Although this is not the unit I am highlighting in this Tutorial……….I will suggest this method if ya want to drop the cash for a vortex or have one laying around. Very easy maintenance and will produce well. In fact……….I have been using these units (I built 12 of them) for almost 2 years now. They have gone through a few changes but it is a good option if your spaces is 24 inches x 36 inches. The only reason I decided to design another type of unit is that I have 12 of these tables and EACH ONE is its own self contained 10 gallon rez which is fine but when ya have 12……….changing nutes can be very labor intensive. If ya only need 1 or a few………Go this way. They work great. You can use the sprayer method (above) to save $100.00.

In order to use the Vortex.......You need to install a root guard to prevent roots from wrapping around the spinning tube. The red line is the 10 gallon Mark. Use Lexan glue for the best bond.



This is after I abandond the Micro Sprinkler method and went with the Vortex only. The top is ABS plastic. You can see how each unit is progressing as I learn and figure out new ideas.



The Vortex method in action. Again......I am still using these as I slowly replace them with my newest model. There good.......I just made it better is all.




And Finally………..We get to my favorite !! Yeah I know…….It took a while to get here but I figure there has to be some ideas here for everybody dependant on your grow space size or budget.

Now this is my Battleship Model Like I said…….I came up with this so I could use 2 tables of 3 x 3 ( 3 foot by 6 foot total ) to 1 rez which really cuts down on labor. I’ve only run this unit one time to harvest as a test and the next run is 2 weeks in but it’s shown excellent results and produced 1 pound of dried bud for a 3 x 3 table. Who could ask for more ……(all hands go up…….”I could…….I could” !!......yeah me too.) LOL

Anyway, keep in mind that you can build one of these ANY SIZE YOU WANT. If your in a small cabinet you can build one that is 2 x 2 if ya want. Or you can go 4 x 4. It’s up to you. 3 x 3 works for me and my set up. You can also drill more holes in the top and use this set up as a cloner or whatever……..The whole point of DIY is to do exactly that…….Do it yourself and make it work for you. There is no set rule or guideline. Necessity is the mother of all invention.

The total cost for this unit will be in the $300.00 range assuming you have most of the tools already. That includes a pump that can be shared with more than one table if ya tee off. The 3 big ticket items will be…….Pump,.Tray, Top. Now that cost is for a 3x3 so if ya build a smaller unit it will be cheaper all the way around.

The problem I have with Pre-Made units is that they are Pre-designed for a mass market and thats it. One size fits all. NOT !! I can never find a system that's ideal for me so the next best thing is to build one myself. A unit that wil hold the same amount of plants as my Battleship Model would run 5 to $700.00 an dnot fit my space. That,s just to much when I can easily build one myself that to me.........Is Better.

Here is a list of the materials you would need to build it MY WAY. My way being a 3x3.

• 1 - 3x3 Bottnicare or General Hydroponics flood tray (bottanicare is better)
• 1 - 650 GPH pump minimum. (Bigger is better)
• 10 feet of ½ inch PVC water pipe
• Misc ½ inch PVC fittings. (couplings, connectors, 90*s, 1 – Tee, 1 – female connector, 1 – ½ rubber tubing to ½ inch pipe connector
• 1- inline filter
• 6 feet of ½ inch rubber tubing
• 1 small tube of silicone
• 1- ½ inch rubber grommet
• 1- ½ barbed tubing connector
• 1 pack of mini sprinklers. (better than hydro sprayers) I use both in one unit)
• 2 inch net cups
• 1 – Reservoir. ( you can use a Rubbermaid or whatever??)

TOOLS:

• Drill…..cordless or not
• PVC cutter or hacksaw. (you can cut PVC with string as well)
• 1 micro sprinkler thread tap (for a drill) (I‘ll get the size later)
• Drill bit for rubber grommet (size ??)
• Uni-Bit - Hole saws or Paddle Bits. (Paddle bits are cheap and work well on plastic)
• 1 – 1 7/8 inch hole saw. DO NOT USE a 2 inch for the cup holes. They will be too loose.
• File or rough sand paper to clean up drilled holes and cut edges

Top Option #1
OK…..The last thing I will mention is the top. You can use Plexi glass from any Hardware store. You will need ¼ inch minimum. You will need to paint it. Use black spray paint as a base and then FLAT white. I found that the cheap spray paints work just fine. SPRAY OUTSIDE !! (We want to get high on the pot we'll grow.....Not the fumes we'll make trying to get there) The top for a 3 x 3 will cost around 30 or 40 bucks if using plexi-glass. CAUTION: Plexi Glass with crack or break if your not careful while drilling. Just go slow. You can use Lexan Glass instead of plexi but the cost is a lot more and isn't that much more durable. If you need to glue or silicone plexi……..Use the LEXAN glue found in the window section. It sticks the best and is removable later if ya need to tale it off.

Top Option #2 (and best) I searched for a local plastics supplier and bought White ¼ inch ABS sheet plastic. I know you can find this online and probably buy cut sizes. I bought 2 – 4 x 8 sheets for $85.00 each and had a local pickup so there was no shipping. That gave me 4 tops total with lots of extra left over for building all kinds of things. I use if for tons of stuff from cutting boards to small shelves to Reservoir lids. (Again………Invent) I ordered it and they Pre-cut it for me it my exact dimensions at no charge. The only thing I had to do was drill my cup holes. If you can find a local shop or get it online………THIS IS THE WAY TO GO. !! There will be all kinds of plastics to choose from. I use the ABS since most hydro stuff is made from this and silicone seems to stick to it well. ABS sheeting is practically unbreakable, cleans easily and is light proof.

To Cut Plexi Glass or ABS sheeting……..Get a Lexan Glass cutter in the window repair section of your hardware store. It will look like a paint Scraper or Mud Knife with a hook. Just score the plastic a few times……place score on a table edge and do a quick snap down. Perfect clean cuts every time. Cost is 5 or 6 bucks.

Whew !!! This puppy is getting way long and I am trying to do most of it offline in WORD…

…. OK……OK……Ya wanna build it. I know.

Drum Roll Please !!!…………………….

Here is the finished table and what we are after MY top is drilled with 49 - 1 7/8 inch holes that will accept 2 inch net cups. This places my plants 5 inches on center in a SOG set up. Drill your top according to your own personal requirements.



Start by drilling the hole required. PLAN before you drill. My table came from a Flood & drain table I was using so I already had some holes in it I didn't want. I tried to use them up with the new layout. Anyway.......I drilled my Nutrient feed line hole in the side.......In the future I will install it right next to the Drain to Rez pipe.

Install your feed line as required by your layout. Mine comes in the side for this first attempt. Install the INLINE filter any where you want it. But after the pump and before the Sprayers. NOTE: Not shown is a pre-filter on my pump to catch any debris that may clog the sprayers or filter to soon.



650 GPH Pump, 20 gallon rez, In line filter:



Here is the removable / cleanable part of the inline filter. Clean this or at least check it DAILY !! Ways to prevent build up and clogging of your sprayers is to: Clean the filter daily, Use the LUCAS FORMULA, Don't use additives that are not needed (and none are), Use a filter on the Drain return form the tray to the rez.

FILTER ITSELF:


NEXT: Build the PVC pipe manifold into a square (you do not need to glue it) and make sure the pipe runs BETWEEN the plant rows so that the roots do not cover the sprayers as they grow. Drill your sprayer holes and TAP according to the thread size of your sprayer. Screw the Sprayers in. I have 12 sprayers. This photo shows the Gro-clone type but I have replaced 6 of those with mini sprinklers for better coverage to the corners of the tray. I installed some PVC pipe holders found in the electrical section of Home Depot......Glued them down with Lexan glue to the tray and set the pipe manifold into those holders to prevent any movement. The lids snap shut. The 1/2 inch TUBE BARB mentioned in the material list is used where the feed line enters the tray. Use the grommet to install the barb. Attach the feed line from the pump to the outside of the barb and the then from the inside barb to the manifold using the 1/2 inch pipe to tube connector (make sense?) Photo will help explain:



Here is the Manifold in action: The Pipe in the center of the tray that is bent 2 times is a center support for the Top. Once the plants put on weight they will get quite heavy. I used the old drain hole to attach the CENTER SUPPORT and offset it away from the CENTER PLANT. (hey......it works for me) INVENT !!




OUT OF SPACE………Continues below:

CONTINUED FROM ABOVE :

Back to Rez Drain Pipe: Make sure you use a 1/2 inch pipe minimum or you could overflow the tray and create a huge nightmare. The water must drain as fast as or faster then it enters the root zone. My tray never fills up past the bottom edge of the PVC manifold. WAYS TO PREVENT OVERFLOW: Install a MAX Level Drain pipe, Use a bigger return to rez drain pipe, Prevent clogs to the drain pipe from root matter, Use a cycle timer. (Not required.....I have run 24/7 before) The timer will run and then shut off for a few minutes as the tray drains and then will come back on long before the roots have time to dry out. One thing not shown is the Drain pipe filter at the REZ end. (do not block the tray end of the drain) I use a small piece of garden root barrier cloth. It is very porous and will allow water to flow freely yet capture any root matter that might make its way back to the rez and eventually to the Inline Filter. No good DO NOT use a screen that will clog the pipe end when debris build up. I make a balloon shape out of the root barrier cloth so that it will never clog up with matter. But I check for water flow daily just to be safe. I'll upload a photo of it later.

The idea of this entire system is that the Nutrient flows from the pump, through the manifold sprayers, Into the root zone, back to the rez and eventually back to the root zone. A constant cycle which is good for Rez aeration and automatic mixing 24/7/365. You do not need an air stone in your rez.



Here is the Root Zone in action: This is 14 days into flower. Roots have doubled since going in.



Another Root Zone Shot;



For this grow I left one plant out and used a cap for that hole. That way I can grab the hole to lift the lid to check on the roots………. This brings up another reason to go with Aeroponics. Root Inspection !!!! I also left that plant out because it sits right above the back to rez drain pipe and the roots would grow right down the pipe creating a blockage.



On my current grow I am using every single space available. That’s all 49 holes. To prevent roots from blocking the Drain I used a 6 x 6 inch piece of clear Plexiglas to cover the drain area. (The drain is the lowest part of the tray and the plexi actually sits about 2 inches above it) The roots sit on top of the plexi. This way……I use all plant sites available (hey……that’s a possible ½ oz of dried weed later for that one hole) And the clear plexi drain cover allows me see the drain hole for my daily inspections. I screwed down a small plastic cap to the lid edge to use as a knob to lift the lid with. (Invent !!)

Here we are with the plants filling in nicely !!



A couple weeks later:



Easy to trim and clean;



Here we are getting close to harvest day



After The Harvest Roots:



Close up of Root Health in Aeroponics:



Even Closer I almost want to eat them with some sauce !!



Shall we do one more for kicks and giggles ??



Cleaning up and getting ready for the next batch. (which is already budding as I write)



And finally………..We have reached the conclusion of the “Never Ending Tutorial”

But I wanted to leave you with this. "The potential of an Aeroponic System". I harvested just over 1 pound from one plant with a 400 watt HPS (and some 600 watt bleed over from another table). This root ball is from a skunk plant that grew over 5 feet tall in a 3 inch net cup with a 1 inch thick stalk using the Vortex style table and blooming for 90 days. It went in as a clone at 6 inches tall. I got so sick of it growing I eventually just cut it down to make room for other stuff even though it wasn't done.(but it was close enough)

Anyway……: Here is the Potential……….


Now Go Super-Charge Your Grow !!!

Nice tutorial Pirate!

I'm sure Pontiac will stop by soon to add this to his DIY page.

Those are some nice looking setups. I think I'll build one for my next indoor so I can try it out.

1 lb. off a 400 is niiiice
way to go on pulling that.

be well

Really good tutorial. Awesome job, Keep it up

+REP

Far Fukkin out Pirate! I cant wait to hear how You mix You Lucas!

sticky material right here folks.

amazing tutorial.

exellent, slightly brown color of the roots...very nice thread.

Amazlng, why ave't l found thls before, needed a klck up arse to do aero, and lt's got me golng, slncere thanks for thls

Excellent tutorial. I like the way you listed potential problems up top in large type.

mmm aeroponics, i have tried those little green sprayers (similar to your yellow ones) before and have not gotten them to do anything, even with a 500 gph pump. Im thinking i just need higher pressures. But this tutorial really make me wanna break all of that stuff out right now!

Pirate as always you inspire and inform on how to grow plenty of booty! What strain do you prefer to run for the Battleship set up? What is your preferred nute blend for aeroponics systems and what PPM/PH levels do you run durring the growth cycle from clone to harvest? I think I may have to build a 4x8 version of this for my White Widow room as I think they would just eat it up in there under 2k of HPS with all that fine mist love ( Hmm.. would that be the Carrier version?). A huge K+++ as always my friend.

Awesome tutorial, this is inspiration to go aero. I'm curious to see how Cannazym would manage in this system being that straight Lucas formula is recommended and cannazym is kind of thick. Does anyone foresee any problems with clogged sprayers?

nice, efficient, attuned garden+detailed knowledge/experience of mastered technique. thx for sharing!

Nice clean set up!

You look like the adventurous type.... why not put some 2" chicken wire on there and set up a scrog grow.... looking at your canopy it would almost double the amount of colas. Keep tucking the grow tops under till you have like 80-90% of the holes filled, then let the tops turn the corner till they are like 2 inches, then flip the light to 12/12, and watch the prettiest show out there.

Ain't nothing like a scrog

you strike me as the type of guy that loves to play around with his plants.... have some fun, it will reward you back.

FirstTracks .......Nice tutorial Pirate!

I'm sure Pontiac will stop by soon to add this to his DIY page.
Those are some nice looking setups. I think I'll build one for my next indoor so I can try it out.

1 lb. off a 400 is niiiice
way to go on pulling that............be well

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Hey Thanks !!.........Give it try........Ya just might like it so much that ya never go back............to whatever ya got going now.

Yeah........the 1 pound PLUS was a freak I believe. I haven't come close to that since. But it was a skunk that just kept going and going and going......never stopped stretching or getting fatter at the same time. The buds where very airy though (4 foot colas......like 5 of em) due to the 400. I know if I had a 600 or more on it she would have given up a lot more.

IKILL3RI.......... Really good tutorial. Awesome job, Keep it up
+REP

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Thanks KILLA !! Appreciate the REP.

HairlessCaveApe........Far Fukkin out Pirate! I cant wait to hear how You mix You Lucas!

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I will keep it short and simple..........I mix the LUCAS exactly as he recommends. 5/10 for low light and 8/16 for HIDs. Thats it. No additives, No fuss. KISS !!

headiez247...........sticky material right here folks.
amazing tutorial.

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STOP IT !! I was just trying to pass along what I've learned to anyone interested.

Misturemike ....exellent, slightly brown color of the roots...very nice thread.

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Hey Thanks Man. Actually the roots are always pretty white. Most of the darker color you see is due to the camera taking photos during lights out. NOW......The very last root ball photo does show some browning but that is from GH Floralicious Bloom in the mix. This was before I figured out that it is way to thick and actually dyes your roots brown. I quit using that product quite some time ago. (and now realize I never needed it in the first place) $$$$ down the toilet.

But good catch !!

libby........Amazlng, why have't l found thls before, needed a klck up arse to do aero, and lt's got me golng, sincere thanks for thls

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Thanks..........I posted this just before you found it. So its brand new. You are one of the first to find it..............Consider this your "Kick in the Arse !!......:smile:

FreezerBoy ......Excellent tutorial. I like the way you listed potential problems up top in large type. [/B]

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Thanks FB !!Gotta love anything you say and your advice is always spot on.

I listed the pros and cons right up front so people can choose if they wanted to continue the read or not right there.

Almost EVERY downside can be overcome..........making Aero a huge potential for anyone wanting to try it.

Thanks again !!

Mc__Nugget.... mmm aeroponics, i have tried those little green sprayers (similar to your yellow ones) before and have not gotten them to do anything, even with a 500 gph pump. I'm thinking i just need higher pressures. But this tutorial really make me wanna break all of that stuff out right now!

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I have the green ones.........They are the same as the yellow just by a different company.........They do suck. For LP Aeroponics I have found the Micro Sprinklers to be the best by far. Better spread are and can handle pretty high pressure. If you had 25 PSIs you could get a 25 foot spray circle. Try that with Gro-Clone sprayer.

narutonut..........Pirate as always you inspire and inform on how to grow plenty of booty! What strain do you prefer to run for the Battleship set up? What is your preferred nute blend for aeroponics systems and what PPM/PH levels do you run during the growth cycle from clone to harvest? I think I may have to build a 4x8 version of this for my White Widow room as I think they would just eat it up in there under 2k of HPS with all that fine mist love ( Hmm.. would that be the Carrier version?). A huge K+++ as always my friend.

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Thanks NN !! Growing Booty is my pleasure !!

I am in the middle of reducing down to 3 strains from many. It's been hard because I love variety and hate killing a good plant. But I know that in order to be the most efficient I need to run 1 strain at a time in any 1 table. As it stands today.......my 3 favorites are......AK47......Satori......and Berry OG. The Berry OG is a self made cross from an OG Kush mother x a HashBerry Father. (see my journal for more info) It gets HUGE ass colas that give off the distinct OG smell. It tripled the typically low OG yields yet retained some of the best qualities (I got really lucky with her. (there is only one in the world).......... FOR NOW !!

I run with the LUCAS FORMULA......As mentioned above.......I'm not gonna go into that since there is PLENTY of info here and all over the web on LUCAS. I stick to the basic formula as I have no reason to change it. It works just the way it is.

I keep my PH at 5.8 to 6.2 with 6.0 being my ideal set point.
PPMS

• 
  [*]Seedlings = 300 to 500 (dependant on age)
  [*]Mothers =1000 (under a 1000w lamp)
  [*]Rooted Clones = 800 (under a 400w lamp)
  [*]Bloom = 1200 to 1350 (under 1800w of light, 3-600s)

Slap ......Awesome tutorial, this is inspiration to go aero. I'm curious to see how Cannazym would manage in this system being that straight Lucas formula is recommended and cannazym is kind of thick. Does anyone foresee any problems with clogged sprayers?

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I use cannazyme for coco in my mother rez on top of GH Micro/Bloom to condition the coco........I don't know which one your talking about but mine is like water. I cannot help there since I never ran anything other than GH in my AERO.......(well....I did try advanced and Humboldt) Stick to the GH. Its cheap and works !!

Take a look at my "Cave" for a complete break down of my schedule and feed routine.

purpledomgoddes .......nice, efficient, attuned garden+detailed knowledge/experience of mastered technique. thx for sharing!

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I've Read many of your posts and am impressed with your technical knowledge. So.........thanks. It means a lot to get your approval.

Uncle FREEDOM.........Nice clean set up!

You look like the adventurous type.... why not put some 2" chicken wire on there and set up a scrog grow.... looking at your canopy it would almost double the amount of colas. Keep tucking the grow tops under till you have like 80-90% of the holes filled, then let the tops turn the corner till they are like 2 inches, then flip the light to 12/12, and watch the prettiest show out there. Ain't nothing like a scrog

you strike me as the type of guy that loves to play around with his plants.... have some fun, it will reward you back.

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Yo Freedom !! Thank You !! Yup.........you got me pegged. I am very adventurous. I did consider SCROG but My plants are so close together and my colas get so big that I really don't think that type of screen would benifit me. My Plants are basically a stick with a bud on it that runs right down to the tray top at times. I think the screen would reduce my yield with my type of set up.............HOWEVER............being open minded and adventures".......I will consider what ya said and see if I can run a test and maybe.............I've been wrong and can do better with a screen. Who knows till ya try right?


OK...........THANKS TO EVERYONE !! I appreciate all the kindness coming my way !! ( I need it)

Pirate thanks for all the good info!!! I am sorry about missing the words Lucas Formula as thats what most all our work uses. As for the PPM targets that is a big help the way you covered all aspects of life in the garden. I have switched the PH of my setup to match your recommendations and am charting the growth of the plants for comparison to what they were doing before . I love experiments ! Thanx again YARRRRRRR!!!!

looks good Bro-ski! i hope i can try this someday. Wonder where Pontiac is with his stamp...?

what a post and thats a lot of information. rep on the way and thanks for the hard work

i ight ditch my dreams of one day having enough to afford a atomix system and just build one of these bad boys

your posts are always so informative Pirate. K+ for being truly inspirational.