NOTE:This is an upgraded version from my journal. I received a good response over there so thought I would post the info here as well since I searched but could not find a consolidated seed making "how to". One might be here........but I couldn't find it.
OK. I made some seeds. I'm no pro.......don't claim to be........don't wanna be. I'm just some "Joe Blow" that enjoys growing weed. Makin my own seeds adds a little mystery to the process because its like a box of chocolates........Ya never know what your gonna get.
I still buy from and support all of our favorite breeders and seed banks. My pollen list will confirm this. I encourage you to do the same. These guys are the pros and the ones that help keep the pure lines going for all of us. Making your own seed just adds a whole new dimension to your growing experience. So enjoy making seeds, but support the true breeders !!
Here's my method of TARGETED POLLINATION (not the whole plant)
By the way:
When I say "Here's My Method"......It means that I have learned many things from many sources and have combined methods or taken ideas and expanded upon them, etc. If I invent something special.......I'll claim it. Some of these ideas and tricks are mine, some are hijacked and I have no clue from where cause I read a lot. For now.........A BIG THANK YOU goes out to all growers around the globe for their advice when I needed it as a new grower as well as ideas and methods shared through, posts, books, web sites, journals, videos, etc. I'm a sponge and I seek "INPUT". (a quote from the movie short circuit) We are all here to learn and that's exactly what I am always trying to do. (isn't the web great?) If I'm not posting in my journal or working out in my room..............I'm over in your journal or thread learning from you so I can fine tune your methods, combine it with another idea I have or concept I got from somewhere else and make it work for me !!
Now lets get to it.
First I collect my pollen. When I start a grow from seed I like to grab a male or two (when they rear their ugly head) and collect the pollen for any wild hair I get up my Pirate Ass. Now, if you have not seen my pollen collection method..........you can see it here: POST #71 http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=109231&page=5
Once I have my pollen, I store it in a water tight / air tight container and stash it in the freezer until I'm ready to use it. I recently use 1 year old pollen and got seeds from it.
I get ready to go in a location far from the Bloom Room. I have a Dr-120 tent in my garage I use for drying my harvests, breeding and sometimes.........an overflow grow room.
Below is the pollen from:
Pirates Sperm Bank Its always changing.
When the plants are in the 2 week stage or bud sites are starting to develop (with pistils) I grab the strains from my Bloom Room I wish to pollinate and place them in my tent away from the ones NOT TO BE POLLINATED. I shut off all fans and ventilation.
Begging to be pollinated:.We'll come back to his photo later:
I use a Q-tip (or small paint brush) to dip into the jar of pollen and carefully rub pollen onto the bud site I want to breed with being careful to only pollinate that bud.Don't even breath on it. I will not pollinate with a different pollen strain UNDER the bud I just pollinated to make sure I don't cross pollen. ( although.........that just gave me an ideer)
See the Pollen?
When pollen is stored you do not want leaf matter or anything foreign in the jar. CLEAN ONLY. This pollen is fresh so I wasn't worried about the NUT SACKS it contained.
Once I've pollinated a bud site I tag it with a piece of plant label and trash bag wire tie. I will now know that every bud site ABOVE the tag.......ON THAT BRANCH ONLY has been pollinated. The tag has the breeding info.
Example tag label: HB x POG tells me that the resulting seeds came from a Hashberry mother x a Pot of Gold father. OR HBxHB = Hashberry mother and Hashberry father.
Create a system that works for you. Just keep it strait or you will have no ideer what strain you have or its lineage when growing it out later.
Here are the plants with tags AFTER I pollinated all the sites I wanted seeds from.
A Little Closer
Now I let the plants stay in this tent for 2 days. After 2 days I will spray the whole plants and surrounding areas with water just to makes sure we have no active pollen lounging around. I move the plants back into the main flower room and wait for harvest day. I have noticed seeds growing within 1 week or so of pollination. A couple to a few weeks later.........they'll be obvious.
Once harvest day comes, carefully remove EACH branch one at a time that contains your seeds and place them in a good safe drying location. Be careful that you do not knock seeds loose and then NOT KNOW what bud it came from........... Assuming your CROSSING breeds and not just making strait F2s. If your not crossing then even labeling is pointless.
Here we are after drying is complete: I use a pan to break up each bud ONE AT A TIME keeping track of the new breeds. R we havin fun yet? I am !! I only pollinate what will become the lower popcorn buds of my plants so the rest is quality usable bud. No waste.
I do not manicure the seeded buds when harvested. Just clip it off the plant and dry it.
Now just break up the buds and collect your seeds. Once I collect my seeds I will place them in a PAPER envelope for a week or so to let them dry a bit. But not to much. Some moisture will help the seed to germinate later. I have dried my seeds for 2 months before and they were all fine. After you break up the buds and separate the seeds..........Roll it up...... spark the doobie.......Sit back........ and admire your work !!
Here my seeds are packaged up and ready for germination. (which I will do soon......... cause I'm dyin to see what I've created)
Closer up
Well that's it Maties !! We just made some seeds. Not only that. We made some entirely new strains. Now all we need to do is grow em out, smoke em, get some feedback from friends and name em. I tend to name along the same lines as the parental genetics which helps me keep it strait. Example: my Hashberry x OG Kush is called.........Berry OG. (how original....huh?)
Oh Yeah, One more thing. When growing out your new seeds don't forget to clone the plant before flowering so ya have a mother of your best creation.
My newest batch resulted in the following crosses: The first breed named is the mother and the second named is the father. (mother x father) Yes it matters !!
You can make as many as you want. I only made 20 to 30 of each. In general, one small branch or a popcorn bud gives me about 20 seeds. Do 5 - 1 bong hit size buds, and you'll get around 100 seeds. If you want a shit load..........pollinate the whole plant or just do more bud sites. I'm just playing and experimenting with it really. Why? .........cause I can and its fun!!
Now keep your eyes lookin out for a Pirate growing his home made seeds. Cause he will document it here. From pollen to seeds, seeds to plants, plants to buds and from buds to hash or BHO. Hows that for a grow show?
Tell em you saw it here......AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!
Now............I'm gonna leave ya with my best keeper cross so far. I was growing OG Kush which is great smoke but the yield wasn't very good. My Hashberrys were huge but not as potent as the OGK. My thought was...... What if I could get the smell and high of the OGK combined with the size of the Hashberry? I crossed an HB father with an OGK mother. Grew out 10 seeds and found one keeper. I was lucky enough to get one that is BIG in yield, smelly, sticky, potent and a local friends favorite. Here she is.
BERRY OG The main Cola alone weighed in at 12 grams dry. Not including the lower, fat nugs. Doesn't sound like much but I grow in a SOG, lollipopped fashion. A stick with a bud on top and no side branching. This plant was 24 inches tall.
A different grow at About 5 weeks
Dried and Cured Berry OG Nug
Now go make some seeds !!
.
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OK. I made some seeds. I'm no pro.......don't claim to be........don't wanna be. I'm just some "Joe Blow" that enjoys growing weed. Makin my own seeds adds a little mystery to the process because its like a box of chocolates........Ya never know what your gonna get.
I still buy from and support all of our favorite breeders and seed banks. My pollen list will confirm this. I encourage you to do the same. These guys are the pros and the ones that help keep the pure lines going for all of us. Making your own seed just adds a whole new dimension to your growing experience. So enjoy making seeds, but support the true breeders !!
Here's my method of TARGETED POLLINATION (not the whole plant)
By the way:
When I say "Here's My Method"......It means that I have learned many things from many sources and have combined methods or taken ideas and expanded upon them, etc. If I invent something special.......I'll claim it. Some of these ideas and tricks are mine, some are hijacked and I have no clue from where cause I read a lot. For now.........A BIG THANK YOU goes out to all growers around the globe for their advice when I needed it as a new grower as well as ideas and methods shared through, posts, books, web sites, journals, videos, etc. I'm a sponge and I seek "INPUT". (a quote from the movie short circuit) We are all here to learn and that's exactly what I am always trying to do. (isn't the web great?) If I'm not posting in my journal or working out in my room..............I'm over in your journal or thread learning from you so I can fine tune your methods, combine it with another idea I have or concept I got from somewhere else and make it work for me !!
Now lets get to it.
First I collect my pollen. When I start a grow from seed I like to grab a male or two (when they rear their ugly head) and collect the pollen for any wild hair I get up my Pirate Ass. Now, if you have not seen my pollen collection method..........you can see it here: POST #71 http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=109231&page=5
Once I have my pollen, I store it in a water tight / air tight container and stash it in the freezer until I'm ready to use it. I recently use 1 year old pollen and got seeds from it.
I get ready to go in a location far from the Bloom Room. I have a Dr-120 tent in my garage I use for drying my harvests, breeding and sometimes.........an overflow grow room.
Below is the pollen from:
- Satori
- Hashberry
- Northern Lights
- Pot Of Gold
Pirates Sperm Bank Its always changing.
When the plants are in the 2 week stage or bud sites are starting to develop (with pistils) I grab the strains from my Bloom Room I wish to pollinate and place them in my tent away from the ones NOT TO BE POLLINATED. I shut off all fans and ventilation.
Begging to be pollinated:.We'll come back to his photo later:
I use a Q-tip (or small paint brush) to dip into the jar of pollen and carefully rub pollen onto the bud site I want to breed with being careful to only pollinate that bud.Don't even breath on it. I will not pollinate with a different pollen strain UNDER the bud I just pollinated to make sure I don't cross pollen. ( although.........that just gave me an ideer)
See the Pollen?
When pollen is stored you do not want leaf matter or anything foreign in the jar. CLEAN ONLY. This pollen is fresh so I wasn't worried about the NUT SACKS it contained.
Once I've pollinated a bud site I tag it with a piece of plant label and trash bag wire tie. I will now know that every bud site ABOVE the tag.......ON THAT BRANCH ONLY has been pollinated. The tag has the breeding info.
Example tag label: HB x POG tells me that the resulting seeds came from a Hashberry mother x a Pot of Gold father. OR HBxHB = Hashberry mother and Hashberry father.
Create a system that works for you. Just keep it strait or you will have no ideer what strain you have or its lineage when growing it out later.
Here are the plants with tags AFTER I pollinated all the sites I wanted seeds from.
A Little Closer
Now I let the plants stay in this tent for 2 days. After 2 days I will spray the whole plants and surrounding areas with water just to makes sure we have no active pollen lounging around. I move the plants back into the main flower room and wait for harvest day. I have noticed seeds growing within 1 week or so of pollination. A couple to a few weeks later.........they'll be obvious.
Once harvest day comes, carefully remove EACH branch one at a time that contains your seeds and place them in a good safe drying location. Be careful that you do not knock seeds loose and then NOT KNOW what bud it came from........... Assuming your CROSSING breeds and not just making strait F2s. If your not crossing then even labeling is pointless.
Here we are after drying is complete: I use a pan to break up each bud ONE AT A TIME keeping track of the new breeds. R we havin fun yet? I am !! I only pollinate what will become the lower popcorn buds of my plants so the rest is quality usable bud. No waste.
I do not manicure the seeded buds when harvested. Just clip it off the plant and dry it.
Now just break up the buds and collect your seeds. Once I collect my seeds I will place them in a PAPER envelope for a week or so to let them dry a bit. But not to much. Some moisture will help the seed to germinate later. I have dried my seeds for 2 months before and they were all fine. After you break up the buds and separate the seeds..........Roll it up...... spark the doobie.......Sit back........ and admire your work !!
Here my seeds are packaged up and ready for germination. (which I will do soon......... cause I'm dyin to see what I've created)
Closer up
Well that's it Maties !! We just made some seeds. Not only that. We made some entirely new strains. Now all we need to do is grow em out, smoke em, get some feedback from friends and name em. I tend to name along the same lines as the parental genetics which helps me keep it strait. Example: my Hashberry x OG Kush is called.........Berry OG. (how original....huh?)
Oh Yeah, One more thing. When growing out your new seeds don't forget to clone the plant before flowering so ya have a mother of your best creation.
My newest batch resulted in the following crosses: The first breed named is the mother and the second named is the father. (mother x father) Yes it matters !!
- Satori x Pot of Gold (POG = skunk x kush... same as Golden Skush)
[*]Purple Kush x Satori
[*]Master Kush x Satori
[*]Master Kush x Pot of Gold
[*]Purple Kush x Pot of Gold
[*]Hashberry x Pot of Gold
[*]Berry OG x Pot of Gold
You can make as many as you want. I only made 20 to 30 of each. In general, one small branch or a popcorn bud gives me about 20 seeds. Do 5 - 1 bong hit size buds, and you'll get around 100 seeds. If you want a shit load..........pollinate the whole plant or just do more bud sites. I'm just playing and experimenting with it really. Why? .........cause I can and its fun!!
Now keep your eyes lookin out for a Pirate growing his home made seeds. Cause he will document it here. From pollen to seeds, seeds to plants, plants to buds and from buds to hash or BHO. Hows that for a grow show?
Tell em you saw it here......AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!
Now............I'm gonna leave ya with my best keeper cross so far. I was growing OG Kush which is great smoke but the yield wasn't very good. My Hashberrys were huge but not as potent as the OGK. My thought was...... What if I could get the smell and high of the OGK combined with the size of the Hashberry? I crossed an HB father with an OGK mother. Grew out 10 seeds and found one keeper. I was lucky enough to get one that is BIG in yield, smelly, sticky, potent and a local friends favorite. Here she is.
BERRY OG The main Cola alone weighed in at 12 grams dry. Not including the lower, fat nugs. Doesn't sound like much but I grow in a SOG, lollipopped fashion. A stick with a bud on top and no side branching. This plant was 24 inches tall.
A different grow at About 5 weeks
Dried and Cured Berry OG Nug
Now go make some seeds !!
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pirate.
mate!great plants!
