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A Few Warehouse Shots | RB26

Ganoderma

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Don't know if you've mentioned it or not, but what is the intended time frame till the first plants get moved in? Month, maybe two?
 

Shcrews

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looks good!

i got some of your herb 2 weeks ago.. , gg4 from CannaCruz. it's really well done, IMO better than the glue at TLC in socal so you must have your warehouse game on point
 

RB26

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So do i got to Cali or colorado to apply ? :biggrin:


Hopefully either soon!

8KW rooms are 16x16 and 12KW rooms are 16x20.

So are those 4 rows of 2 lights in the 8K and 4 rows of 3 in the 12k? 4'x6' foot print each? 10' ceilings? Could you comment on the penetration of the canopy that you have observed running these? Wicked light plan, hats off to ya. 8k veg and 12k flower?

Yeah, correct on the lighting diagram. The ceilings are 14' but net about 12' when construction and the floors are all finished. The penetration of Gavitas is more than enough. I have always extensively underpruned & defoliated as well though. I've never even ran the Gavitas at full strength, this will be the first time. There are no veg rooms yet, perhaps one in the future.

Good Luck !!! Have the popcorns waiting for the show !!!

This is pretty epic already! :) Thanks for sharing!

I have to say, its cool to see someone live out what my dream is. Rock on buddy!

Looking great!, tagged!

I love this! Clean work for sure.

Thank you!

Hi RB26, very exciting to see such a high quality build and a fellow GT-R enthusiast!

Would it be possible for you to give us typical cost per square foot of these rooms including a/c and electrical?

I've been looking into pre-built rooms and came across pharmpods.com which are around $137.50 per sq/ft including a/c and electrical. Do you think the extra cost could be justified by the fact that they are ETL listed and vertically stackable?

The cost/sq you mentioned is almost identical to mine. I could get it down to about $100 /sqft if I went to 16 light rooms. I've seen those units in action in several facilities. I like the idea, but I'm not sure they justify the price. Most of them use older, air cooled glass hoods because of the heat load. They cram 16 lights into 320 square feet with only a 5-ton AC, which is a recipe for disaster in my book. I'd also never even considering using anything but DE fixtures again. The 9.5' ceilings are also a deal breaker for me as my plants typically get 5'-6' tall.
 

RB26

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looks good!

i got some of your herb 2 weeks ago.. , gg4 from CannaCruz. it's really well done, IMO better than the glue at TLC in socal so you must have your warehouse game on point

Awesome, I really appreciate that. Whenever someone wants to see a killer outdoor grow I pull up your IG :tiphat:
 

Tonatiuh

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bad ass thread bruh.
its like a diagram for me for when i go bigger.
much respect for sharing this homie
taking a lot of "how should i do this?" out of my equation.
sitting back enjoying the show,
peace-T-
 

rjrom90

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The cost/sq you mentioned is almost identical to mine. I could get it down to about $100 /sqft if I went to 16 light rooms. I've seen those units in action in several facilities. I like the idea, but I'm not sure they justify the price. Most of them use older, air cooled glass hoods because of the heat load. They cram 16 lights into 320 square feet with only a 5-ton AC, which is a recipe for disaster in my book. I'd also never even considering using anything but DE fixtures again. The 9.5' ceilings are also a deal breaker for me as my plants typically get 5'-6' tall.

Of the units you've seen in action, have there been issues with fluctuating floor temp due to lack of insulation as discussed earlier? We're hoping to grow vertical 8 foot trees in 30 gallon smart pots directly on the floor.
 

Sluicebox

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rjrom90 Not to be out of line or step on any toes. If you cut a couple short blocks of 2x4's and lay them on floor then take a 3 or 4 short pieces of 1x2's and lay them across the other way then put your smart pot on that. You will allow warm air from the room under the plant. This will cost you less than 3" in vertical height. Very effective. Good luck.
 

who dat is

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rjrom90 Not to be out of line or step on any toes. If you cut a couple short blocks of 2x4's and lay them on floor then take a 3 or 4 short pieces of 1x2's and lay them across the other way then put your smart pot on that. You will allow warm air from the room under the plant. This will cost you less than 3" in vertical height. Very effective. Good luck.

Or a 2" sheet of foamboard
 

RB26

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So did power company upgrade your transformer? Been a lot of folks burning them up around here.

It would be very hard to burn up the power I have available. I'm about 1,000 lights short right now.

bad ass thread bruh.
its like a diagram for me for when i go bigger.
much respect for sharing this homie
taking a lot of "how should i do this?" out of my equation.
sitting back enjoying the show,
peace-T-

Glad you find it useful. Feel free to let me know if you have specific questions.

Of the units you've seen in action, have there been issues with fluctuating floor temp due to lack of insulation as discussed earlier? We're hoping to grow vertical 8 foot trees in 30 gallon smart pots directly on the floor.

You're planning on growing 8' plants in a container thats 9.5' tall? I haven't spent enough time with them to know whether or not the bare metal floors effect temperatures of other units. Being steel I assume they conduct heat moderately well, so if I were stacking them 2 or 3 high I might be worried about transferring heat upwards to the top units.
 

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Of the units you've seen in action, have there been issues with fluctuating floor temp due to lack of insulation as discussed earlier? We're hoping to grow vertical 8 foot trees in 30 gallon smart pots directly on the floor.


The foam board is a good way to go, but 30g pots + trees might be too much of a load

or, place ~ 3" layer of polished stone in the bottom of each pot
 

who dat is

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The foam board is a good way to go, but 30g pots + trees might be too much of a load

or, place ~ 3" layer of polished stone in the bottom of each pot

The foam will be fine, the load will be dispersed enough across the bottom of the pot and also the saucer. Just be sure to have it at least the size of the saucer or maybe another 2 inches bigger in diamter than saucer. Also, foil backed polyiso foamboards have a higher R value than blueboard and also has fibers reinforcing it inside the foam. It is a crumbly product however and will break down with Excessive UV light so you might only get a couple of runs out of them. Not terribly expensive though and definitely faster than constructing with 2x4s.
 
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whadeezlrg

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It would be very hard to burn up the power I have available. I'm about 1,000 lights short right now.



Glad you find it useful. Feel free to let me know if you have specific questions.



You're planning on growing 8' plants in a container thats 9.5' tall? I haven't spent enough time with them to know whether or not the bare metal floors effect temperatures of other units. Being steel I assume they conduct heat moderately well, so if I were stacking them 2 or 3 high I might be worried about transferring heat upwards to the top units.

cool build. must be a shop building at a residential zoned spot or not being permitted? ( I only ask because framing with lumber in commercial in CA is a no-go when it's a structure inside of another I believe)

containers have 1"+ thick chinese plywood floors, not steel fwiw. if you want to see stacked containers in action I strongly suggest looking into @texaskid on IG.

steel is a conductor of heat, but it doesn't displace like aluminum or titanium for instance. even if the floors were also steel your environment inside of the container would need to be hot enough to kill the plants inside of it to transfer enough heat to even slightly warm the bottom deck of another unit stacked on top. fwiw the containers when stacked basically have all of their contact along the side rails and 4 corners, as those are the only parts of the container with any structural integrity.

the floors won't be the problem, I would highly suggest using spray insulation on all interior steel surfaces, or you will be experiencing condensation on the inside of your unit once the outside temps start keeping the steel cold

I'm guessing you've got a 2500/5000amp supply if you're saying you can run 1 million watts?

also, regarding pharmapod cost vs build cost; I'm not sure that paid labor is part of rb's build out figure(it may be I dont know, I'm assuming not). pharmapods include plans that are easy to be permitted, are basically plug and play meaning little to no down time, can be resold for probably 75%+ of the original purchase price, can be moved, can be stacked, are literally steel so security is a huge plus. I personally dont like the design of the pharma pods for their light layouts etc. but the results speak for themselves. also. texaskid is using 750w gavita flex units in his and is killing it, they're perfectly sized to have 16 750w gavitas on a 3.5'x5' canopy with a 1' aisle own the center. I'm not trying to sell a pharmapod believe me, but I do know a thing or two about growing in a container...and if I was me, I'd build one or buy one just like mine, or multiples...I am accepting orders ;) mine cost me roughly $75/sqft to build without accounting for labor
 

RB26

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cool build. must be a shop building at a residential zoned spot or not being permitted? ( I only ask because framing with lumber in commercial in CA is a no-go when it's a structure inside of another I believe)

containers have 1"+ thick chinese plywood floors, not steel fwiw. if you want to see stacked containers in action I strongly suggest looking into @texaskid on IG.

steel is a conductor of heat, but it doesn't displace like aluminum or titanium for instance. even if the floors were also steel your environment inside of the container would need to be hot enough to kill the plants inside of it to transfer enough heat to even slightly warm the bottom deck of another unit stacked on top. fwiw the containers when stacked basically have all of their contact along the side rails and 4 corners, as those are the only parts of the container with any structural integrity.

the floors won't be the problem, I would highly suggest using spray insulation on all interior steel surfaces, or you will be experiencing condensation on the inside of your unit once the outside temps start keeping the steel cold

I'm guessing you've got a 2500/5000amp supply if you're saying you can run 1 million watts?

also, regarding pharmapod cost vs build cost; I'm not sure that paid labor is part of rb's build out figure(it may be I dont know, I'm assuming not). pharmapods include plans that are easy to be permitted, are basically plug and play meaning little to no down time, can be resold for probably 75%+ of the original purchase price, can be moved, can be stacked, are literally steel so security is a huge plus. I personally dont like the design of the pharma pods for their light layouts etc. but the results speak for themselves. also. texaskid is using 750w gavita flex units in his and is killing it, their perfectly sized to have 16 750w gavitas on a 3.5'x5' canopy with a 1' aisle own the center. I'm not trying to sell a pharmapod believe me, but I do know a thing or two about growing in a container...and if I was me, I'd build one or buy one just like mine, or multiples...I am accepting orders ;) mine cost me roughly $75/sqft to build without accounting for labor

Thanks for the info. I'm not trying to knock Pharmpods, they just aren't right for my application. The resale value is a nice perk I hadn't thought of before though.

The electrical load is 3-phase, 2000A @ 480V. This is not a residentially zoned building. It is permitted, which is the reason everything is being built to code. Otherwise I'd never use 1x12's in the floors. I'm not sure where you heard framing with lumber inside a structure is not acceptable, but I know multiple permitted locations all over that are built to code this way. Metals studs are not a requirement of the building code (at least where I am).

the cost/sqft number I gave earlier is all inclusive, including labor @ $100/hour.
 

rjrom90

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Indeed, thanks for all the info guys. Didn't mean to derail the thread into a pharmpod discussion though.

Definitely looking forward to see what else you have in store for us RB.
 

whadeezlrg

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I totally hear ya, my response was really addressing both you and the guy talking about the pharmapods.

that is a MONSTER electrical supply! I hope you can understand my skepticism...not all that common you feel me.

I have no first hand dealings with the code thing, but that is what a friend that was doing one of the large vegas spots told me... I figured it had to have been a regional thing because its obviously a large investment to not be doing it right.


the city I grew up in in so cal is giving out large scale medical grow permits @$25/sqft annually...if only I had a little bit of capital and the desire to go back to that shit hole hahaha

anyways, love the potential of this build man! I'll be watching.
 

Essential Maine

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Amazing space RB! Love the raised floor design, genius.

I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but what is your backup power? Nuclear power plant, Full-site generator set or individual gennys per room?
 

RB26

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I totally hear ya, my response was really addressing both you and the guy talking about the pharmapods.

that is a MONSTER electrical supply! I hope you can understand my skepticism...not all that common you feel me.

I have no first hand dealings with the code thing, but that is what a friend that was doing one of the large vegas spots told me... I figured it had to have been a regional thing because its obviously a large investment to not be doing it right.


the city I grew up in in so cal is giving out large scale medical grow permits @$25/sqft annually...if only I had a little bit of capital and the desire to go back to that shit hole hahaha

anyways, love the potential of this build man! I'll be watching.

Yea I get it. The amount of power is asinine. What location are you referring to? I always like to stay as up to date as possible.

Amazing space RB! Love the raised floor design, genius.

I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but what is your backup power? Nuclear power plant, Full-site generator set or individual gennys per room?

I haven't mentioned that. Right now I don't have much in the way of backup power but down the line a few Generac units are in order.
 

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