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Chocolate Thai Revival
- Thread starter Zanddar
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Definitely good to store them there!
Storing them in the cold and germinating them in the cold are 2 very different things and have 2 very different purposes. This is all a theory anyway, but I think it's worth a try, in combination with the other tips people have given you, mostly because it's very unlikely to cause harm
Again, wishing you luck. Would love to see this happen
acespicoli
Well-known member
1% - 3% peroxide is cool take 1/4 cup 3% peroxide and mix with a half cup of distilled water
One percent was preferred
this post here #161
scuffing with sandpaper and pre cracking seeds or removing shells is a last resort as well
high hopes 
Nice post hempy !
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F2F
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Edit: one of the ingredients was listed incorrectly.
From an old IC member. Fresh EWC has been my ticket to success with old seeds. The old ones may not start spouting until 30d later, but they do it!
Old seed germination technique
Preparation
A. Bleach Solution: 1tbs bleach + 1gallon tap H2O
B. Coconut Solution: 1/4th tsp H2O2 + 2 shots coconut water + ½ drop of Rapidstart
C. EWC in starter pots, FRESH!! Must not contain residual organic matter or mold will grow.
Process
1. Soak seeds in bleach solution 20min
2. Gloves for all subsequent handling steps
3. Rinse with tapwater in strainer
4. Soak in coconut solution 12hr
5. Crack seeds at each end, not middle
6. Soak additional 12hr to 24hr (preferred)
7. Sow at ¼” - ½” beneath substrate (fresh EWC). Keep EWC loose to promote oxygen exchange.
8. Cover with dome, keep @80 – 85deg F for up to 30 days. Do not let EWC dry out. Mist spray EWC, dome, and walls to maintain RH of 85 – 99%.
Peace
F2F
From an old IC member. Fresh EWC has been my ticket to success with old seeds. The old ones may not start spouting until 30d later, but they do it!
Old seed germination technique
Preparation
A. Bleach Solution: 1tbs bleach + 1gallon tap H2O
B. Coconut Solution: 1/4th tsp H2O2 + 2 shots coconut water + ½ drop of Rapidstart
C. EWC in starter pots, FRESH!! Must not contain residual organic matter or mold will grow.
Process
1. Soak seeds in bleach solution 20min
2. Gloves for all subsequent handling steps
3. Rinse with tapwater in strainer
4. Soak in coconut solution 12hr
5. Crack seeds at each end, not middle
6. Soak additional 12hr to 24hr (preferred)
7. Sow at ¼” - ½” beneath substrate (fresh EWC). Keep EWC loose to promote oxygen exchange.
8. Cover with dome, keep @80 – 85deg F for up to 30 days. Do not let EWC dry out. Mist spray EWC, dome, and walls to maintain RH of 85 – 99%.
Peace
F2F
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acespicoli
Well-known member
if all else fails 
try some goat piss 
try some goat piss 
F2F
Well-known member
Ah yeah, need to fix that…coconut WATER. Just edited that post. Thanks 420!Nice write up! When u write coconut milk do u mean the one in a can or coconut water in bottle? By that I mean the ones you can enjoy as a refreshment ?
Cheers
I’ve bought young fresh coconut and collected the water inside…actually the stuff sold as a drink in the store has worked better for me (small sample number however).
Peace
F2F
FranJan
Active member
Lots of coconut water have a "shit-ton" of sodium. Not all but I would avoid the ones that do. Unless sodium is what's good for old seeds.
And IDK why you folks love Hydrogen Peroxide. Very reactive and doesn't discriminate between good or bad when it comes to organics. Great in anaerobic conditions. And nowadays isn't the main use of hydrogen-peroxide to bleach paper? I don't think bleach or H2O2 are what is best for plant material. But that's just me.
Just did some leftover ~12 year old Mr Nice Critical Mass seeds I found stored in a contact lens case. Not that easy a seed to germ successfully which is probably the reason Mr. Nice gives you 22 to 24 seeds with CM instead of the usual 18. So with 2 water soaked, (50/50 mix of tap water and r/o water), coffee filters between 2 plates on an electrical radiator I put in 12 seeds. 10 popped 8 were viable and 7 are growing ATM. Some were slow to pop that's for sure.
Best of luck @Zanddar. I know people who haven't smoked in 25+ years who would line up for a week to buy huge quantities of real deal 80's era Chocolate Thai. Seriously Z, if some seeds pop PM me when you want to retire!
And IDK why you folks love Hydrogen Peroxide. Very reactive and doesn't discriminate between good or bad when it comes to organics. Great in anaerobic conditions. And nowadays isn't the main use of hydrogen-peroxide to bleach paper? I don't think bleach or H2O2 are what is best for plant material. But that's just me.
Just did some leftover ~12 year old Mr Nice Critical Mass seeds I found stored in a contact lens case. Not that easy a seed to germ successfully which is probably the reason Mr. Nice gives you 22 to 24 seeds with CM instead of the usual 18. So with 2 water soaked, (50/50 mix of tap water and r/o water), coffee filters between 2 plates on an electrical radiator I put in 12 seeds. 10 popped 8 were viable and 7 are growing ATM. Some were slow to pop that's for sure.
Best of luck @Zanddar. I know people who haven't smoked in 25+ years who would line up for a week to buy huge quantities of real deal 80's era Chocolate Thai. Seriously Z, if some seeds pop PM me when you want to retire!
So did it work?
Hi FranJanLots of coconut water have a "shit-ton" of sodium. Not all but I would avoid the ones that do. Unless sodium is what's good for old seeds.
And IDK why you folks love Hydrogen Peroxide. Very reactive and doesn't discriminate between good or bad when it comes to organics. Great in anaerobic conditions. And nowadays isn't the main use of hydrogen-peroxide to bleach paper? I don't think bleach or H2O2 are what is best for plant material. But that's just me.
Best of luck @Zanddar. I know people who haven't smoked in 25+ years who would line up for a week to buy huge quantities of real deal 80's era Chocolate Thai. Seriously Z, if some seeds pop PM me when you want to retire!
I agree with you on some things being bad for plant life and I only do a quick rinse of the seeds.
Doing what I love to do and retiring with my CT seed business? Ok I will look you up when I get there.
Nothing yet with my CT seed business.
Hello everyone.
Been thinking about and trying many tips. Rather than just cracking the shells, why not just remove them?
Now that the shells are soft I gently removed the embryo from the shell. We can see some look healthy and alive.
I dumped a few that were black and dead looking. Have them in an organic growth solution. It's easy to over complicate things, when simple may work.
Been thinking about and trying many tips. Rather than just cracking the shells, why not just remove them?
Now that the shells are soft I gently removed the embryo from the shell. We can see some look healthy and alive.
I dumped a few that were black and dead looking. Have them in an organic growth solution. It's easy to over complicate things, when simple may work.
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romanoweed
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if taproots came out and then died, you need to plant em in earthwormcastings after h2o2 and gibberlic-threatment, and keep a very steady moisture for months. you can achieve that with humidity dome (selfmade with plastic fine), and just spray with a watersprayerbottle (or what you call in english) all couple days, so its never too wet, not to dry..
wait for weeks, months..
for us after 3 months a survivor came up! grows slow, but is alive.
yes it can really take that long
(also: the more earthwormcastings, the slower it dries out..)
wait for weeks, months..
for us after 3 months a survivor came up! grows slow, but is alive.
yes it can really take that long
(also: the more earthwormcastings, the slower it dries out..)
romanoweed
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i personally find removing shells unlogical.. the taproots have a certain power, why on earth would removing any resistance of the shell help.. if theyre soo mega weak, then they are anyway too weak.. just my thinking. but cracking is also what i doo. also later when they come out dirt and then stagnate with the shell on the head i try to remove it,,
for me just cracking or sandpapering is enough, so the liquids can enter well, but without damaging the taprots
for me just cracking or sandpapering is enough, so the liquids can enter well, but without damaging the taprots
romanoweed
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and dont overdo the h2o2. there was a scientific paper wich found out too much is too much, simple as that.
dillute a 3 percent h2o2 solution by a factor of 100. (1 part h202 100 parts water) . thats optimal. not more, nore lesss than that.
(for a 16 percent solution, doo the math yourselve.)
dillute a 3 percent h2o2 solution by a factor of 100. (1 part h202 100 parts water) . thats optimal. not more, nore lesss than that.
(for a 16 percent solution, doo the math yourselve.)
romanoweed
Well-known member
my reciepe is inspired from @SolarLogos, who told me its a very prooven reciepe, that he ended up with after many many attemts with various old seeds, and seemed to yeald the best results.
And i read quiet alot reports of old-seed-germination, and found him to sound most experienced and confident..
He is nomore active.. only thing i didnt mention is he used coconut water sometimes aswell.. but its not the most important detail. Ahh, and gibberlic/Coconut Threatment for about 3 Days i recall.
ok , good luck!
And i read quiet alot reports of old-seed-germination, and found him to sound most experienced and confident..
He is nomore active.. only thing i didnt mention is he used coconut water sometimes aswell.. but its not the most important detail. Ahh, and gibberlic/Coconut Threatment for about 3 Days i recall.
ok , good luck!
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