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An Organic Grow

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vonforne

Ok.....here we go.
First.....This goes out to all those people over the years that have been there helping out...Suby/jinx, Burn1, 3LB, LC, 3BM, Jaykush and of course Dr. Ingham's boyfriend Smurf. :) :respect:

Hello, my name is Vonforne. :wave: I have done very little as far as complete grows go that are documented in a grow along. So, I guess this will be the first complete grow along for me. I hope you all can contain your laughter. :pointlaug

Second.......

We do not have ANY grows going in here. Indoor has them and the chem dogs have them but we don't. So, I will start one for the Organic peeps here. :chin:

Here goes...... pull up a chair. :lurk:

My soil mix:

I will be using a peat based mix, I have mixed the base substrate up and it is cooking right now.

It is: I measure my parts in bags (1 cu. ft) or 44 quarts for the peat
Worm castings are about 16 liters.

40% peat + 1 cubic ft. of Organic composted peat for the micros
30% perlite(add until I plunge my hand in easy)
20% Mushroom compost(two bags)
10% worm castings (homemade)

Organic peat moss(4-44 qt bags), Composted Organic peat (1 44 qt. bag), Worm castings (fresh 20 lbs), Mushroom compost ( 2 40 lb bags),


Here is a pic of the mix #1




I use a tea to inoculate this mix. It consisted of a tea with the ingredients of Worm castings, Humic acid (Safergro) liquid, Liquid seakelp and a shot of fish emulsions and molasses to feed the micro kiddies.

1st inoculate tea- 45 ml humic acid, 60 ml liquid seaweed, 60 ml fish emulsion, 1 handful worm castings in panty hose, organic molasses because it contains more micro-nutrients. Brew for 48 hours.
I used tepid water that had been aerated for 48 hours.

I will do this two or three times depending on how much the soil dries out during the "cooking" phase.

I will be growing 3 strains Stonehedge/Sagarmatha, Blueberry/Shivas Kyptonite seeds and my favorite Hill Temple Collective Sunshine #2s

The later two are F1s. And the HTC show it.

Here is a shot of the Baby BB a couple of days old.








I have place all the seedlings in the same composted soil.....all the same. I do this to see early in their life who is a nute hog and who is not.

the mix is :

50% peat with dolomite added
40% perlite
10% worm castings

and I did add a certian % of Mycorrhiza to the mix for a good start for them.

The BB and Stonies cracked open on the 17th of April and showed the first leaf sets on the 20th.
Picture is above.

Now I had some Blockhead I wanted to grow but the germ rate was really bad so I started the HTC Sunshine.

The HTC cracked the soil and took off like Olympic champions.

They are all doing great now.....here are some pics of them all



The Blueberrys are showing a Mg def. Which I am treating now. Nute hog I think. I treated this with a top dressing of dolomite, worm castings and perlite. And a light foliar spray of liquid seaweed.






The HTC caught them all and will probably out grow everything in the room.
Right now due to security and the electric consumption I will keep them under 40 grow lux floros until week 4.


The kids at about 2 weeks











continued because it won't let me post until I shorten it.
 
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vonforne

:wave: :wave: I'm back.......


2nd inoculate tea- 45 ml fulvic acid, 60 ml liquid seaweed, 1 handful worm castings in panty hose, organic molasses

1st stage soil......

Measure out 25 gallons of soil and add

50 TBS N ferts.....40 Mexican High N and 10 Supertea dry.
24 TBS of Indonesion P guano
50 Dolomite Lime (powdered) @ 2 per gallon of soil mix according to Master Burn1's teachings.

I then mixed it dry......very well.

Transplanted.

Here are the teas I have been using.











I then brewed an alfalfa tea. I used pellets and ground them up in a blender.










it is alfalfa...loose in the bucket so the soil microbes can eat it up. the tea also has 30 ml liquid seaweed and worm castings in a panty hose.

I removed some after 24 hrs and used as a light foliar. 30 ml to one quart.

After that I took one half of the tea and began preparing my 2nd stage soil for transplant in a couple of weeks. and added to the soil...mixed well.

added more water and added 5 TBS castings to the panty hose, 2 table spoons of alfalfa and molasses.

Re-brewed

Here are the kids after 1/2 week in the soil. they are 3 weeks old. Hill Temple Collective Sunshine #2 and there are some Blueberry X Sivas mixed in there also with 3 Stonehedges.

The HTC's and a group shot for good measure to exhibit the good health of all the plants.








I started to loose the tea a couple of days ago to anaerobic bacteria even though I was doing a water exchange.

I used it on my outside garden.

I'm now re-brewing a new tea of :
5 TBS castings in hose
3 TBS alfalfa in hose
45 ml of liquid seaweed
30 ml of humic acid
3 TBS of Yucca extract (like in LK)




This will be used as a foliar and at the end of that time added to the awaiting soil mixture.

they will receive fresh clean water at the next watering. I will not start using a tea in the soil until the third watering.


I have taken a great amount of notes. These are just seedlings. I will repeat the same make up on the clones in the next round. This go around is to see how they receive the soil mixture and foliars.

Hows that for an ongoing experiment Master B1?:kissass:



V-man Jedi Master HaHa! Until the next post.
 
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I have been sitting on these for a while now. I missed the Sunshine 1 aka Brazilian Punch. I have some Jamaican Jam also I want to crack open but will have towait because of the scaled down flowering room. I went from a 9 X 13 to a 3' X 6' closet. I will be updating in a couple of days. I have to put the finishes on the closet.

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vonforne

Thanks JK and Relic,

Relic it good to see ya again. How is the island life treating you?

Jk, one of these days you could show us more than the trics of you plants..........

I have been working on ways to extend the life of the aerobic teas.......The tea with the large head of foam, I kept going for about 5 1/2 days. It is something we have been working on in the OFC. Now providing my tea brewing methods are plain compared to some of the designs that the other members are using. It is a simple Wally World air pump and an air stone bar. Medium sized air bubbles. I ph'd the water to about 6.0 using Safergro ph down. I had started the ph at about 6.8 and went down from there. When I had reached 6.0, the tea had its best outcome.

When I mixed up stage 1 soil (grow ferts) I had about half left over. this will be mixed with the next batch. The nutrients will be already decomposed and waiting for the kids. but most importantly the Dolomite, which is slow to break down, to become available to the plants upon 2nd transplant. Most of the rock dusts are rather slow decomposer's with the exception being Hydrated lime.

I have kept the kids under 3 40 watt floros with grow lux bulbs and as you can see they are doing just fine. They are starting to get crowded in there and hopefully I will move them to the bigger light this week end. I will be using a 1k with a Horti-lux blue. It will take them to the finish.
I know B1 that you can get along with a cheaper bulb but at the discount price I picked it up for.....I couldn't go wrong.

See you all soon.

V-man
 

Suby

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Veteran
This should be good, glad to see someone putting his grow where his posts are :D
I'll be lurking and watching for some grow porn :D

Suby
 
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vonforne

Simpleton said:
What kind of moisture level are you after during this time?


Hello Simpleton, thanks for stopping by. Its good to have you here.

I usually go by this method.....I start by adding a little tea at a time...then check by squeezing the soil mix in my hand. when a few drops of water comes out....then I know that I have added enough moisture to the mix.

Now, as the moisture evaporates, I will keep a tea going for this reason. Besides adding moisture to the mix it also adds new micro-organisms. I like to rotate the amendments in the tea to supply as many different micro-organisms as I can.

High Suby, Glad you could stop by. We have missed your guidance lately. Pull yourself up a chair and enjoy the show. Our forum has been lacking in the grow department since the beginning.

And I hope to provide some top notch porn for everyone. The best is yet to come.

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wow...von you have it down to an organic perpetual goodness.
i have none of those ingredients..
using age old organics ,which i have yet to use.
i figure the addmendments in my soil will due for now..
couple pics...hope you dont mind...of SS2 9 days from sprouting..





 
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Hello Thai, Glad you stopped by. Pull up a chair. the show is just getting started.

Ram, those kids look great. Once they get going, watch out. Pull up a chair.

I have an update coming soon. And they look great!

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vonforne

Ok, it has been one week since I transplanted into the 1st stage soil mix.

I have brewed some new teas this week increasing the dose of fertilizers.

Here is the run down.

4.5 gallons of tepid water
In sock:
1 handful worm castings
3 TBS Alfalfa meal
In water @ 6.0 ph
70 ml Maxi-crop seaweed
3TSP (scoops) Yucca extract
5 TBS molasses

brew for 24 hrs..........






I added the tea to a spray bottle @ 1/3 the volume of the sprayer and filled the other 2/3 with water.

Sprayed the kids dow with this and left it on them for 3 Hrs. then I rinsed them off with tepid, fresh water.

I have been foliar spraying them every other day right now. Followed by a good bath of fresh water.

Each morning I spray them with fresh water also.

I removed 1.5 gallons of water from the tea and then added fresh water. About 1.5 + gallons

then added to the sock

3TBS alfalfa
5 TBS worm castings
2 TBS molasses (30 ml)

Began brewing again....and here we are now.




I has gotten really dark. Looks like the molasses is brewing over.

Here are a shot of some of the kids

First BB X Shiva @ 4 weeks








The Stonehedge Wk 4







The HTC Sunshine @ wk 4 (actually they are a few days behind the others)



















Here are some root zone shots @ 1 week after transplant, actually tomorrow is 7 days.







So, what do you all think of my little ones?

Do you think those teas are working?

Until the next time.........

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awesome Von..man nothing like getting down and dirty with the organics..
 
Looks great.. Homemade wormcastings? We should all be doing that! And good work on the mushroom compost.. that 'shit' is fab-u-lous
 
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vonforne

Yes we have been talking and talking in the OFC so someone had to come clean.....or get dirty and put up some proof that all the goodies that we talk about works.

This stuff is real basic. I'm waiting to get the sexes determined and go to cutting clones....then the real fun begins with different types of fertilizers.

Maybe I can get someone to mail me a couple of pounds of Comfrey..........

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Suby

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Veteran
Them girls are looking healthy, so your foliar feeding every 2 days huh?
Well that's sort of the beauty of a small grow, you have more time to devote to each plant.
That rootzone shot is sweet, nice and white.

Sub's
 
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Hey Tric. thanks for stopping by. Yes I have been using fresh castings......I'm running real low now but most of my soil is mixed already.
The mushroom compost is organic but purchased.

Suby, I have been foliar feeding every other day. The dose started out low but I have been increasing it a little each time. I never let the foliar sit on the leaves for a real long time. and each time I rinse very good.
What was your maximum amount of foliar dosages?

The roots seem to have responded good also but I was hoping for more growth than that by now.

I have not had to water them in the containers since I transplanted them. I think it is due to me spraying them twice a day.

They want for nothing and the soil is doing good right now.

Hey UmphryMcgee, how is the grow going? Did everything work out for you? thanks for dropping in. Pull up a chair next to the others and smoke one.



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