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Roots-shoots-fruits = Nutient use

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This a post off the Advanced Nutrents Fourm I found it to have some good basic information on the use of nurtients /
by "Darktone"

edit: this is not a AN add - supplment any of ur products & use the information
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,the amount of nutes/supplements can seem confusing,and so make the usage of them seem quite complex. Like anything,growing cannabis sucessfully,has a learning curve. How steep,or shallow this curve is,is soley dependant on how agressivley you approach it.

If you are a relativley new grower,than don't use such a complex formula.You would not make the assumption that just because you bought the best track shoes on the market,that the first time you set foot on a track,you will beat the 4 minute mile.Hell no...buy a good basic shoe,and just keep running untill you get better and faster.Then go get the fancy air cushion mumbo jumbo magic shoes,and the grease for your hair to give you an aerodynamic head...whatever,you know enough about running now,to try and tweak the system.

Look at a cannabis plant the same way.On a botanical level,it is a very complex entity,with numerous and complicated processes,all varying not only at different times of the day,but throughout its life cycle as well.

But as a grower,it is a much simpler thing.

A mature cannabis female is only three basic parts...Roots...shoots...and fruits...Thats it...aint no more.

So address the plant as such,a simple three part entity.then make sure you meet at least the basic needs for all three.

You must provide a "base" nutrient.A simple progressive ratio of N,P and K.
"N" is the shoots,"P" is the fruits and "K" is the roots.And as fert companys,such as ouirs,have already worked out those ratios,nice and simple.
Supplements:A plant will grow through it's entire cycle,with nothing but the above correct ratios of N.P.and K.In nature(outdoor grow) thats fine.It takes a long time,but nature adds supplements by incredible control of enviromental factors.And that is pretty complex stuff,so lets not go there.Lets stay with our simple three part plant.

Roots:we want to get roots growing faster and better,as root mass equals fruit mass in the end.So your first choice in supplements addresses the roots.You want better health and more aggressive growth.Adding bacterial or fungal elements(or both) will accomplish this.The methods that these mychorisal elements employ is again complex,but the results are simple...bigger healthier roots.And of course the ratio Of NPK is working here as well.

Shoots:first,what you did to the roots,is going to improve your shoots(leaves and stems) by making food more available. Your base nute NPK ratios are in use here as a control as well.So the issue to address in flower is health and vigor.This is where a good B-vitamin such as B-52 is so important.it will help keep these vital leaf structures and food carrying stems healthy,and stress free.We stop using it,after second week of flower,as the "shoots" portion of your plants,shift function from feeding themselves,to feeding the flowers(fruits).Of course in veg,the "shoots" portion is much more vital,and so should be adressed more carefully.

Fruits: This is why grow the damn things to start with.So lets get them as big and sticky-icky as we can.Again what you did for the roots,will ensure that you get lots of food to the fruits.And a nice vigorous shoot structure ensures lots of energy for big fruit growth.And of course that ever changing NPK ratio,is doing it's job,increasing in amounts as the size of your flowers increase,and then decreasing as they ripen off.So to help outdo what the normal NPK would accomplish,we are going to add a supplement,that will tweak those ratios to the specific needs of the flower,while it is growing larger.Thats what Big-Bud does.In conjunction with base nutes,it fine tunes the more specific wants of growing fruits.As the fruits(buds) mature,they stop getting bigger,and start producing more resins and oils in a protective measure against longer cooler nights,and shorter days.and this is a good thing,as this gives them density and weight.And that density and weight,as a grower,IS our bottom line.Overdrive does a similar function to big bud...but targeting a different part of the fruit.And without,the aid of any base nute.It targets the specific needs of the resin and oil production of the fruit.Your plant is no longer "growing".Just as you top out at a final height and girth,so does your plant.You no longer require the same high caloric uptake,as your not putting on mass.And your plants don't require high NPK,as neither are they.

Then it's just a matter of flushing out anything your plant hasen't used,and it's cycle is finished.
 

racketeer

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AN does an excellent job marketing what we as growers already know and wording it to make us want to buy their products.



Now that's marketing, wording what we already know so good it ALMOST sounds like new ideas! :D
 
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but is it any better than all the other stuff out there? thats the question
 
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The owners all drive Hummers... at least their marketing is working.
 
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oh gosh.......Peacefuly = Yes I use AN products - however this was not a AN add or plug

Not all of us know the good information found in that post about what each nutrient does to the cannabis plant along with a nice new grower anolgy as well - a lot of it can can be usefull to new users of ANY nutrients /

It was not about ME endorsing any product - Reeferman already did that beter than I could ever do with Love Potion #1
 

racketeer

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Oh no Fredster, I wasn't in anyway saying you were plugging them bro, I'm just saying those boys are doing a hell of a job marketing!

Shit, I fell for it, I already bought piranha, voodoo, carbo load, sensi zyme, big bud, overdrive and final phase, they got me by the balls and if this shit doesn't work I'm flying over there and smashing every single one of their Hummers!
 
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Racketeer - It wasn’t Ur post that led to my response = Sorry – I can be defensive at times. I hope U have terific results & don't have to take on a hummer :wink:

As far as AN goes - so far IMHO they work great - however - if Ur a year round grower it will cost a lot of money to use all there products.

For me; it's not "if" they work but; will the cost diff compared to other 'well known' brands have effective noticeable results.

Only time will tell for me.
 
Wow Fredster, Really appreciate the thread :yes: Feel proud in the fact that your thread has tought me about NPK - Roots, Shoots and Fruits.
Bookmarked :wink:
Its threads like this that bring these important facts to new growers attention, even if it has been said or examined before in other threads, this is the first time ive seen this and I have been on here every day for about a month :moon: :smile:

Shit, I fell for it, I already bought piranha, voodoo, carbo load, sensi zyme, big bud, overdrive and final phase, they got me by the balls and if this shit doesn't work I'm flying over there and smashing every single one of their Hummers!

LMFAO! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
 

racketeer

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LittleBigGrower said:
this is the first time ive seen this and I have been on here every day for about a month :moon: :smile:


Just goes to show I take way too much for granted :D

Glad it helped ya out :smoweed:
 

Rellikbuzz

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Maistre said:
The owners all drive Hummers... at least their marketing is working.

Maybe so, Maistre, but the owner of GH drives the most expensive Ferrari that they make! So, tell me now who is more pretentious?
 

nycnoob

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wow this thread was soo long ago.. I remember reading it.. it was when I was still not as active as I am now.. I was lurking... That I am sure everyone believes to be true...the roots shoots and fruits..
 

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