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Use Half the Lights and Achieve competitive Harvest- Yield of Dreams

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It's an article from Hightimes Grow America by Jorge Cervantes called "Yield of Dreams" 2004 May/June



"YIELD OF DREAMS

Using half the normal light, you can reduce growroom temps and electrical bills and achieve a healthy and heavy harvest.
by Jorge Cervantes


"You can use half the light and achieve the same harvest," says James, an astute man with a cat-that-ate-the-canary look, as he puffs on a spLiff the size of a big Cuban cigar.
"You're joking," I wince, "but I'll hear you out if you pass me that spliff."
After a short conversation, during which he makes a few simple growroom drawings on the back of a brochure, I'm convinced he's on to something very, very interesting. "This looks good on paper and sounds too good to be true," I say. "I must see proof before sharing this with High Times'Grow America readers. They are a very demanding Lot."
James whips out his cell phone and quickLy makes four appointments for the following two days with growers in southern Holland.
We meet the next morning, have coffee, a few tokes of Snowball, and jump into a panel delivery truck packed with electrical and hydroponics supplies. We pull into a typical Dutch driveway and disappear behind an automatic garage door. The home looks no different than any other in the neighborhood, until we climb the stairs to Mr. Clean's attic growroom.
"Heat is a big problem here, because the growroorn is just below the roof," James explains. "We had to do something to keep the room cool but not use any more electricity. What we found costs less and works better." With a twinkle in his eye, he continues: "When the temperatures rise outdoors, it's more difficult to control the microclimate in the room.

Air circulation changes. Convection becomes more intense. Humidity, water absorption, and evaporation speed up as well."
High-intensity-discharge lights generate heat that can cause many problems in a growroom. For the best results, the average temperature should stay around 75*F during the day and no less than 55*F at night. Daytime growroom temperatures as high as 90*F can cause irregular nutrient uptake and slow growth.
"On average, a hot system will produce between 35% and 60% less than a system running at nominal temperatures," says James. "The other problem is that the buds don't close. They stay fluffy. THC levels are also lower when plants are grown hot. And you have the extra work of trimming these fluffy bastards."
The fluffy buds are less-than-prime smoke and fetch a lower market price. High temperatures also cause buds to exude more pungent odors, which could alert neighbors to the grow operation.
To avoid these problems, James started experimenting with schedules in the flowering rooms, where the light regimen was set at 12 hours on and 12 hours off. He tried turning half the lights on for the first hour of the day before switching on the other half. Then he tried turning half the lights off for the last hour of the day.
"We noticed no real difference in growth or production, and we were saving a few kilowatt hours of electricity," James says. "But we still didn't solve our heat and odor problems. That's when I got radical and put my engineering background to use."




James spent 14 years as an engineer for Grodan, a Danish soil company. Most of those years, he visited greenhouses in the Netherlands solving problems. They still call "Witty Wortel," Dutch for "problem solver."
"You know about the two Dutch guys who invented copper wire, right?" inquires James. I answer with a blank stare. "Yes, they were fighting over a penny! We've found a new invention that makes the same penny twice as valuable as it was before."
James evaluated the data he'd amassed over the years spent troubleshooting in the greenhouse industry and found that plants need bright light, but react slowly to it. Greenhouses are dependent upon natural sunlight. Artificial Light is used when natural light intensity levels drop below a specific point. Different plants require different light levels. When plants are given less artificial they react as though growing in shade; they mature more slowly and lack vigor. James wondered what would happen if he simulated the greenhouse environment indoors.
In the Netherlands, direct sunshine is intensity drops whenever clouds block sunlight. Plant growth slows somewhat, but it does not stop. Plants culti-
vated under intermittent bright light coupled with less intense light stilt grow big and strong, but they take longer to mature. James used this simple principle as the foundation for more growroom experiments. The results were extraordinary.
Mr. Clean's attic growroom has two banks of lights overhead, each containing five 600-watt high-pressure sodium lamps. He's conducted many different experiments with light levels. The most productive method was to turn every other lamp on, creating a zigzag light pattern in the room. He switches half of the tights on for two hours. At the end of two hours, he turns off the first bank of five lights and turns on the second bank to reverse the zigzag Light pattern. He maintains this schedule for 12 hours, alternating every two hours. By having only five Lights on at any one time, he cuts his electricity consumption in half. In order for this system to work properly. a minimum of four lamps is necessary.
The first crop employing the new zigzag scheme with only five lamps on at any one time produced about 9.3 pounds (4.2 kilosl, roughly 70% the yield of the previous crop. James continued to refine the schedule with many more experiments. Yields continued to climb.
Our second stop is a growroom run by two beautiful young Dutch women, affectionatety known as "The Babes." Their first crop with James' custom-made Quick Switch Master controller looked good at first but caught a virus during flowering, and some plants died. The Babes were forced to harvest the remaining 110 healthy plants two weeks early, only seven weeks into flowering. When dry, the harvest weighed in at 4.8 pounds (2.2 kilos). Given the total amount of wattage (600-watt HPS), they harvested roughly 0.7 grams per watt for every 30 days of flowering. (The benchmark is 0.5 grams per watt for every 30 days.) This was a major improvement.
Their next crop yielded approximately 3.1 kilograms of top-quality bud from 150 plants - that's about 20.8 grams per plant, or 0.7 grams per watt per 30 days of flowering (1.4 grams per actual watt used during the entire flowering period). Yield was low because the clones were not grown long enough. (A group of Polish growers has recorded the highest yield thus far using this system: 1.6 grams per watt during eight weeks of flowering.)





"Clones are 'pregrowing' in this room," says James as we enter the third growroom on our tour. He advises giving clones 120 hours of pregrow time - either five days of round-the-clock light or seven days of 18-hour light. "If they're small or weak, let them pregrow until they're strong," James explains. A plant that hasn't been pregrown and set into flowering while still small will produce 35-50% fewer buds than a pregrown plant. Plants should be at least 10 inches (about 20 to 25 centimeters) high, with lots of side branches, before they get turned over to 12-hour light.
Light is only half the equation. For a heavy harvest, everything in the growroom must be integrated into a precise system. Lamps should be fixed 55 inches (1.4 meters) overhead and exactly 39 inches (1 meter) apart and set up in a matrix, so that illumination is even below. The plants will instinctively grow toward the static lamps.
Fresh, well-circulated, temperate air is the next most important element. James says that half of the evacuated air should be replenished immediately, creating a constant vacuum in the growroom. With proper air pressure, the door should have a tiny bit of negative pressure when opened. The next trick is to replenish the air so that it's evenly dispersed throughout the garden. Extracting air also creates a vacuum in the room that can be used to draw air in from a passive source. Direct the air along the length of the growing bed with flexible ducting. Cut 1-inch holes every 4 inches along the length of the duct. Cover some holes with duct tape and experiment with airflow volume. Use the tape to partially cover holes to balance incoming airflow along the length of the duct.
Air temperature should stay at or close to 75* to 80*F when the lights are on. Add a fan to bring more fresh air into the room. The intake fan can also be attached to a thermostat to further help regulate airflow.
The Quick Switch Master (QSM) turns the lights on and off in relation to the temperature. When the exhaust system can't keep the temperature below a given value, the QSM turns off progressively more lights until the temperature
drops to the appropriate level. Once the room is cool, the lights go progressively back on. If you get a couple of really warm days in a cold winter, the system automatically compensates. With the QSM, James' electricity costs decreased 25-30%.
He leaves the extraction fan on 24 hours a day. Circulation fans go on and off with the lights. This wet/dry irrigation schedule also helps regulate humidity, which runs between 55% and 65% when lights are on, and 40% to 45% when they're off. From the fifth to seventh weeks, humidity can drop another 10%. About a week before harvest, when the buds are large and compact, humidity sometimes jumps to 70-80%, due to the buds sweating at the tops.




The fourth room on the tour is a sea of big, fat buds. Olaf uses B'Cuzz with Atami A & B fertilizer and soil booster, starting with flowering complex from the second week until one week before harvest. He prefers an inexpensive potting soil with high peat content and 20% perlite. The advantage of using this soil and watering from below is that the plants don't need all the food at first; it's stored in the potting soil. When the plants' nutrient needs increase, they have reserves in the soil.
Adjust the pH to between 5.6 and 5.9. Adding Cannazym (an enzyme-rich soil improver from Canna) weekly from the onset through harvest helps to break down any residual fertilizer salts and old root systems from previous harvests.
Getting the feel for irrigation takes some practice. because the frequency varies. "In the beginning, I water the 3-gallon [11 -liter] pots about once a week," observes Olaf. "The closer it is to harvest time, the more often I water - usually three times a week." Irrigation solution fills the growing bed with about an inch of nutrient solution; it should take two to three days to be used. In two to five days, the solution will disappear. When the tray under the pot is dry for one full day, it's time to irrigate again.
The Quick Switch Master is quite economical. A double-switch box for 10 lamps costs less than $500 (E400); a smaller version, for six lamps, costs $250 (E200). No matter how you figure the investment out, it's less expensive to buy a switch box than the extra ballasts to run the lamps. The actual net decrease in electrical consumption works out to be 35%, because the crop takes 10 to 14 days longer to mature properly before harvest.
Increasing yield and lowering expenses is both a science and an art. When all factors - light, heat, air, water, nutrients, soil - are functioning at their highest capacities, you should have a heavy harvest.
James' technique integrates low- and high-tech solutions to maximize every facet of the growing equation. Apply some of these principles to your own grow, and watch expenses fall and yields soar."

A few people asked about the method. So, I dug the magazine article out for everyone. Good luck. I've never had a room big enough to try it.
I have tried the modified lighting schedule which make every 7 days of growing worth 9.
 
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chosen

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No problem. Thought that there might be some people interested in reading this article. I forgot all about it unil I was reminded by a question from berryman
 

waster

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fascinating stuff, it confirms my experience/gut feeling. In terms of yield, larger area has always worked better than small area/high light levels, for me anyway.
 

pumpkin2006

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Thanks, while I would never use that method in my life; its interesting to know whats out there.

Just curious, you mentioned that you had done the 6 1/2 hours on and 12 hours off? If so, did your yields/potency go down? I haven't been able to talk to anyone about this and many say that the potency would go down.

Thanks!
 

chosen

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My potency wasn't truly any different than any other crop, but my yield was a little smaller. Yet, I saved quite a bit of time.
Courtesy of TacoSusio
"
The Actual cycle is this.
cycle____ON________OFF
1 Sun 12:00 PM Sun 06:40 PM
2 Mon 06:40 AM Mon 01:20 PM
3 Tue 01:20 AM Tue 08:00 AM
4 Tue 08:00 PM Wed 02:40 AM
5 Wed 02:40 PM Wed 09:20 PM
6 Thu 09:20 AM Thu 04:00 PM
7 Fri 04:00 AM Fri 10:40 AM
8 Fri 10:40 PM Sat 05:20 AM
9 Sat 05:20 PM Sat 12:00 AM


incidentally, JackKerouac's schedule was correct, but perhaps the way he wrote it made it unclear for you.

also, you do need a DIGITAL 7 day timer with at least 9 ON and 9 OFF (or to put it differently, your need at least 18 programmable events) events. hope this helps.

btw, none of this information is new, i've read most of it here on icmag, so i'm not claiming anything innovative nor am i taking credit for any of this, merely paying back the community for all that she has given me.

i believe nite tiger has an excellent thread on the 18h 40m day. i encourage all interested to look it up.

good luck & stay green,
susio"

These threads discuss the idea

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40892&page=1&pp=15

http://www.advancednutrientsmedical.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=9819&page=1&pp=15
 
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How is this diffrent than a sealed room with light movers aircooled? just looks like it costs more $.
 
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Haps

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I would agree with slips, you can get the same effect with movers. My room has two blooms, each have one K, one has blue, one has yellow. I use diy manual movers to move the lights once a day, about a half meter, is all. This lets each half of the grow get 6 hours of full light, and 6 hours of indirect side lighting, and both blooms get side lighting from the other K. If you are flipping ballasts on and off all day, it will be more expensive than the same amount of lighting on movers. But this principle is sound, different strains react differently, still observing results on that one. My yield is a bit less than the same room with 3K, but the heat is better, water temps workable and buds are frostier than I have seen in my herbal years.
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chosen

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The difference is automation. With the light mover you can increase the size of your room by roughly 20%. That's if you leave it automated. I've seen people go larger though. Here you would be essentially getting a little more space and you don't have to be there to move the lights in order to have it work. If you can stay home and move the lights yourself then it would work great with the light mover idea. I would even just run rails or tracks if I could stay home and do it.
Yet, it does cost more to do it the way that the article suggest. I'm sure the lighting industry for indoor gardening loves that.
 

kiwi quad

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hi,just on the lights costing more when you turn them off and on repeatedly rather than leaving them on is a myth,i only mention it as i thought it was wierd that i just finished watching mythbusters on discovery not 10mins ago and they were just testing that same thing with all the different types of lights you can get,and it turned out the amount of power was only minutely different like only seconds over a month,i still think an electric mover is the easiest tho,oh well i'm off i only chymed in cos i thought it was a bit uno that it was on telly,cheers have a good one
 

chosen

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I remember when people started that rubbish about lights. It's because some lights accelerate current to start their light. So, people have a silly idea of using more light by turning them on and off. I like this idea and you can use a flip flop box for larger scale areas. I don't grow enough plants at a time to ever do something like this. Yet, I've played with most concepts.
 

Harry Gypsna

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this is bizarre-not the thread but the fct its here when for the past two day ive been thinking of having dofferent amounts of lights at diofferent times of day-not like this for saving power but more like simulating the increase and dcecreae of light intensity through the day that nature provides....not the same thing at all but just seemd strange that this thread pops in when im thinking about that..... the ganja gods will push the ideas in ur direction lol
 

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