That "Old School" Hawaian

There are a few things I want to do b4 I croak. I've adoptrd some of BOG's virgins, but thet are much too young to sacrifice. A 500 pound Marlin would be nice. Maybe next summer.

Hawaian smoke. Anyone have any advice or experience growing this stuff? Are there any "pure" strains available? This is definitely on my list. Thick gooey buds ya had to cut up with a scisors. Oh baby.

I've got quite a few freinds in the islands and make several trips a year over to paradise.

Although you still find some old school Maui Gold, Maui Wowie, and Puna Bud it is not the strongest or most desirable herb available in paradise.

My last couple of trips the primo stuff has been Diesel, Pink Grapefruit, Sour Diesel, something they are calling Mighty Joe Young and some Afgani here and there.

The real trick seems to be the Islands themeselves. They are getting three to four harvest a year in dirt outside. No nutes, no fuss, and no muss. All organic. Volcanic soil is something else. These guys are not even preppin the soil or anything. Just find a good patch of dirt and go. I also know greenhouse growers there that are doing one more harvest a year and getting much thicker, meatier buds. Definately sticky, drippy buds.

It also seems to be dependent on what part of the Islands your in. Upcountry Maui seems to be great, not raining all the time but other places on Maui are the wettest places on earth. Some places on the Big Island are like the desert with little rain at all. The Big Island seems to be more suitable for growing (weather, attitude and population dencity). But, no matter what part of the Islands they are growing in it seems to only take them a few months for them to get it dialed in.

They have also discountinued fly choppers around trying to find outdoor grows. The state was sued over the practice because it was killing off a local protected bird and disrupting it's nesting area (thank god for greenies). Plus it cost so much to man and keep gas in the choppers and for the most part Hawaii is a very poor state. Pineapple and tourism only get you so far. So with that there is a surplus of local outdoor bud. Great if you in the know but it's still holding $100.00/quater in the local retail market.

I've grown out some Hawaiian Indica from Sensi Seeds that was not that great. I've also grown out some Diesel from seed that was from a Hawaiian batch and it was good but not great. The plants seem to love paradise as much as I do. I typically grow indoor organic hydro so it's not quite the same.

I'm going over the first of April. So, I can give some more feedback when I return.

Texas Kid

I have read that either Fuma con Dios or The Real Mccoy from The Flying Dutchman has quote "some primo hawaian genetics in it".

TK.

Thanks for that Info. A damn fine report..

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Thanx Guys-

The smoke I got was from a grower in the early 80's. It looks like things have changed for the worse. It also looks like the Island strains have all been hybridized.

It is still the best weed I've ever smoked.

Buds actually grown in paradise just have a special loving effect on the mind and body.

Man I love that place.

I'm actively scouting land and houses right now. What a much more smoke freindly enviroment. Everybody puffs.

Texas Kid

I hear ya' Captain, I smoked some of the pure Maui Wowie back in 1982 from a friend that had just come back from the Islands. To this day I have yet to smoke anything with that kind of body high that keeps your head clear and energized. I went for a five mile bike ride after smoking the kind bud and I though I was flying, literally!
Dutch Passion puts out a version of their own called "Hawaiian Haze". I haven't grown it but it sounds tasty enough. Good luck with your 500 LB. marlin

I gotta chime in here, because Hawaiian is prolly the best "up" high I have ever experienced as well (or was it just that I was 20 years younger and toting around a little less weight?) I got a hold of some Maui Wowie about the same time that KGB47 did; my ex-gf went to there every year for vacation with her folks and always brought back the goodies--Kona Gold, the Wowie, etc. I grew the few seeds that were in the buds, and I can only back up what the Texas Kid said--the girls never came close to their mother in either taste or buzz. I prefer Hawaiian coffee as well, and it's interesting to note that cannabis and coffee share the same boost in aroma, flavor, and richness when grown in volcanic soil....conditions that cannot be duplicated by the simple home grower.....unless, of course, the Kid wants to help us all out by bringing a load of dirt back.

Has anyone checked out either Pakalolo or Paia Hawaiiana from Sativa Seedbank (at SD)?? I'm pretty sure both have been "stabilized"(crossed with skunk) to shorten maturation times and increase the yield, but I figure if one grew enough of them, you might find a really sativa pheno......anyway, that's my plan.......when finances permit.

And to the esteemed Captain--good luck with that marlin--

Elmo,

That much dirt may be a bitch to get through the airport.

Pakalolo is a generic term when your in Hawaii (hawaiian for weed) so I'm not sure what exact strain or hybrid that may be.

I know the guy's in Paia on the wonderful island of Maui that elegidly, to hear them tell it, did the early hybrids of the Paia Hawaiiana strain thats out there right now, but I haven't grown any.

Smoked some with a heavy sativa pheno last time I was there and vegged out. I think I sat with my finger on the remote control channel button for about 25 or 30 minutes before my old lady asked me if I was alright. I guess everybody wasn't as interested in watching all the channels just scroll by as fast as the TV would allow. Oh well, killer buz anyways

I'll see what web they have to spin when I'm there in 4 weeks roughin it. hehehe


Tex Kid


P.S. In the land of the blind a one eyed man is king

Texas Kid-

I hear ya about vegging out for a half hour. You kust kind of finaly come to. HeHeHe!!!

Howzit? Hello from the Big Island. Yes it is true, all true, Hawaiian is da best.
I read in a guide book that I think was from the 70's that claimed there were only a couple different types of weed on the islands. I think they said they had originated in Vietnam and Thailand. That has obviously changed now. The other day this guy held out his clenched fist to me and gave me a handful of White Widow!
Every bag I bought here was top notch and pretty similar though.
I am growing an indica strain that one guy has been growing pure for about 20 years now and it is unreal. My first grow had no lava rock soil in it though, just potting soil from the store and it turned out good even though I grew it in small pots (11") and during the late fall/winter.
Captain,
Some dude got a 686 pounder a few days ago, think they had one or two "granders" this year.

medicine man

What do u mean a plant was 686 punds dam that's that imposible please tell me your talking anout a huge mj plants.

686 lbs.??????

686 lbs.??????

lol, they're talking about the marlins guys, not MJ, hahahaha

T_h

No, nO, I'm talking about buds so big you need a pickup truck to buy just one!!!

.................marlins.............

Har, Har, and no, not the baseball team either.
Reel big fish! 1,000 pounds and more caught with a rod. They got a big old spear for a nose and it's not unheard of for them to go flying thru the air when you get them near the boat. A few years back, some guy got one right thru the chest. His dad was on the boat and saw it and passed out like a sack of potatoes. The guy was OK though.

medicine man

Off to Maui in 2 weeks to suffer with the poor people for awhile.

Should have a decent local report when I return.

Just thought I would make everybody envy me haha.


Tex Kid

YOU POOR DAWG!

Its cold, wet & nasty here. There's still snow in the woods.

I'm going to get a case of Beck's.

Damn Capt.

That talk of cold, wet, and snow I think I feel the sniffels coming on.

Tropical thoughts yea.......

Tex Kid

ALright Texas Kid

Don't forget all of your good buddies here at IC while your in paradise. If you cant bring us all back a large sack of that special soil, atleast grab us some local beans so you can spread the wealth.

I'm going to Vietnam/Thailand later this year with my old lady & some of her family. I'll be spending 4 1/2 weeks there traveling and seeing temples. The only reason I agreed to go is.....you guessed it..the opportunity to find quality strains. Hopefully a Pure Thai/Vietnamese Sativa for my garden.

The entire time I'll be there I'll be scouting for beans and attempting to locate a local grower who could hook me up. I know it will be hard to find someone, but Cash talks in Vietnam so I think I'll be doing alot of purchasing.

It's kind of funny, my old lady was like...Wow I told my family that you would never go! She was so happy, she must think I actually want to spend time with them.....hahaha

Needless to say when I return I'll be spreading my wealth to my buddies here at IC.

Fluffy Green Buds to Everyone !!!!!!!!!!

S Pain,

Having been to both those places several times over the years...... BE CAREFUL MAN.

I've wore out Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Indonesia hell most of Southeast Asia all through the 90's I was jumping around over there.

Just don't go way off on some covert mission with locals and not expect potiential problems. A local family member in your case should be the ticket.

Watch out for the monkeys

Texas Kid