KRUSTY BUCKET SYSTEM (recovery info)

hey gang,for those who remember Krusty and like his work ,here some info to share with you that was lost in my old c.p.but i was able to recovery .i am not a hydro guru so don´t ask me how to grow this monsters . i remember that the strain was B.C BIG BUD.

note -also remember that he was banned from every site cause he was a jerk but at same time a genius at his work.

enjoy the ride

KRUSTY original post O.G



Krusty Bucket System

Well here we go again


since i have been asked a few times lately to redo a thread talking about the KBS I might as well try and do my part

I will post as much info and stuff as i possibly can.

Then if anyone ahs questions i will try and answer them

this is more for the folks that are new to the canna scene and want to learn how to grow KBS.


the people who have been around realize hwo easy this system is and more then likely dont need my help but if they need some by all means ask n shit......i have seen others *try* and help with this system and i have yet to see anyone truely answer all the questions fully/properly.....seems too hard for some to grasp n such:/

well here we go....

peace








here are some pix for yas...

the first one is the KBSin detail..

the second picture is a typical grow room using KBS...

and the last picture is a KBS with clones just inserted...

here are more pix..

the first picture is a typical thomas air pump ussed in the KBS


second is a picture of the soaker hose inside the KBS

Krusty's Growers Guide

Intro

The following document has been made to help the average grower with
there home garden even thou most of the information could be used to help
out larger scale growers as well. Information here has been cross-referenced
but for the most part is simply the opinion of one person. Hopefully with
discussion this document will develop with the input of other peoples
experiences, I think this is important since I truly feel as thou we are the
pioneers of the industry. Past growers have developed many techniques over
the years and I respect their hard work they have done to bring the platform
that we now have, but we have to move forward and sometimes to do this
change is needed. With change some past ideas will be left behind and this
is where it becomes tricky. Many of the ideas of yesterday are continued
today simply because their products/systems are being sold not with the
interest of the grower but for revenue of their out dated ideas. If this was
just a matter of choice then I would not personally feel so compelled to
point out the flaws in systems but this industry we are in at this point is
not accepted by the governments of most nations. When something is of this
nature then companies should hold more honors of their products and worry
less about revenue. I am sorry to say but this has not happened my personal
theory on this is most of these products create jobs for legit people who
have families of there own to support thus giving them drive to push
products because there purpose is not to help others but to survive. In the
legit world this type of business ethics are fine but in the industry at
hand there is no room for self-gain we must all work as one force until the
industry is accepted. Once the industry is accepted then we can open up
various methods to offer the rest of society and at this point "buyer
beware" type of ethics can be utilized. Until then we must put revenue
aside and worry more about ones freedom.

Attitude

This is something I find important and I will not go into great depths
because it should be easy to understand. Showing respect to the people
around you is the only way that you will also be treated with respect. Your
neighbors are very important prior to being busted; I find a humble
respectful attitude towards most neighbors will lower chances of them
feeling the need to inform anyone of your activities. For the larger scale
growers humble lifestyle is also important, cars, toys, activities that seem
out of place will raise questions and so do your work, save your earnings
and use your nest egg towards a legit business, education or lifestyle away
form the growing location. This concept will allow others to follow your
path and continue where you left off. This is just my opinion that using
growing as a stepping-stone instead of a career is best for everyone and
makes the governments job of enforcing laws on growers much harder, I call
this the "rotation effect". Which brings us towards how ones attitude should
be in the court systems, I have found that if you show respect with how you
present yourself in court this will help with your charges. All to often I
find people trying to defend themselves or speak when they are not required.
Spending the funds to have a respectful lawyer representing you will show
you are taking the court seriously and that you respect what they are doing.
Of course there is obvious things like how you cloth yourself, hygiene and
gestures during proceedings that hopefully are common sense but I find the
most important thing is to find your own representation if at all possible.
On a finally note I find "Generalizing" to be the worst thing one can do
when it comes to police officers, yes there is bad apples as in all lines of
work but I find most police officers are doing there job and/or what they
feel is right. By disrespecting police officers you will not gain anything
and it is not making it easier on the rest of your peers. Show the police
officer respect and exercise your right to say nothing, wait to speak to you
r lawyer because anything you say will come back to haunt you.

Lets get down to business....

Stress

When I first started this document it was going to be step-by-step type of
format, but I must open up more and talk about the important degrees of
growing in various methods due to people's own environments and/or
limitations.

When a plant stresses it is a electrical/chemical dysfunction in the system
as in all things, which will cause ethylene to start at the cellular level
of the plant. Other then the stress from aging most stress causes can be
corrected by the grower. I find that in most cases it is the style/system
that causes stress and with that said here are the degrees of stress that we
can focus on.

1. Root Structure. Without proper root structure the plant cannot absorb
water/nutrients properly and even thou roots have the ability to rebuild
themselves unless there conditions are allowing them to work properly
repairing will either never happen or too much energy will be taken up for
repairs and this will effect the rest of the plant, which will effect the
final product.

2. Improper Lighting. This has many degrees, first off not enough light,
this can be from the light being too far away or the light simply doesn't
have enough lumens. Light cycles are also a problem.

3. Environmental. Temperatures, humidity, CO2 are the basics.

4. Disease and Predators. I find that under a stress-free environment plants
own built in immune system and growth structure will overcome any disease I
have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with and that once the plant
has established itself it will out grow any predator. I find predators to
only be a problem in the beginning, clones need to be clean, but once the
plant is growing 3 inches per day predators cannot keep up to the growth of
the plant under a stress-free environment.

5. Nutrients. This is a little trickier because there is so many products
out there and most of them do not work well with each other. Also it is how
the nutrients are given to the plants, pH levels, PPM levels, toxins and
temperature of the nutrients all need to be kept within boundaries.

There are other factors but I will try to stick to the ones I know enough
about to add to peoples current and/or future endeavors. One must realize
that all these degrees of stress work with, against each other and the true
art of growing is trying to balance everything and sometimes this means
setting precedence with one over the other.

Now I will go into more depth of each of the stress degrees, but remember
one person makes this document and it is my experience that determines the
boundaries I set for my techniques of growing. I have in the past read thru
books and articles and I admit there was correct information but I found a
lot of it to be misleading and incorrect, or at the very least incorrectly
given. For example most books, articles I have read try to show people how
to fix problems after they have happened, this is there biggest flaw. It is
more important to teach people how to grow properly with a stress-free
environment then to suggest products and/or techniques to aid the stressful
situation. I find most products to be less then honorable and most
techniques to be less then intelligent. Common sense is by far the most
important thing to remember once you have a problem existing in your system.

This pictures/diagrams show the KBS up close...they show the resivoir system ...the co2 and the actual buckets in the room.









here are pictures with text/diagrams added to help show the KBS in better detail

here are diagrams showwing why vertical lighting is superior to horizontal lighting...

i think that is about all as far as diagrams...next post i will post a huge ass amount of text that some dewd/dewdette had been saving form stuff i have done over the last couple of years...

Ah, KBS... man that guy was a dick.

Thanks for digging it up. I don't think that KBS is the greatest system around for most people. DWC or ebb n' grow are much better systems and people of all grades of growing can use em.

I remeber him on OG...and man was he a beligerent person......I think he was eating the wrong things for his mind....but he did seem to have some knowledge at the time...he sure as hell could get a lot more yield then I could.Wonder where he is .....
jarff

he busy flaming his "pissant trolls" on planet ganja..lol. it's depressing really..

God bless him.Even tho he was the most ignorant guy I ever heard in a rant he sure had a lot of listeners...he did produce an abundance of his hobby.He may have discovered Haldol and is now a blubbering idiot.lol so maybe nothing has changed...I send him + karma for old times sake.
Every character we meet along the path is another experience in life...accept it for the sake of it.
jarff

I went to his thread expecting to get some knowledge and realised very quickly that I wasn't interested in anything he had to say. I 'll stick to what I am doing.

It was sad.

ya he may have been an asshole but this is amazing




how much you think each of those fucking buds weigh??

Many of history's so-called greatest minds were insufferable jerks (which, having no personal experience w/ Krusty I'm not going to say he was - however his posts speak for themselves). Isaac Newton & Thomas Edison, among others, were supposed to be very challenging people to be around.

Dick or not though, Krusty's observation about light diffusion/distribution were right on the money.

I believe he was saying (for that harvest) something around 2-3 lbs per plant.. so around 15 pounds. Then again, a lot of debate went around that comment.

I did a bunch of homework on him and the system for a couple days. Asshole, was a genius, outdated <- simply put. Things that we need to take from him, were the lighting and environmental's; also the "NFT" with the huge bubbles... but I can't really think of ways to do that in smaller systems.... well maybe

He was extremely conservative, which was his downfall.

If anyone is interested in a better system, that takes advantage of side lighting and good environment I would look at Northern Farmers HP Stadium. Really, just an awesome setup.

Who cares if the guy is an asshole he made it happen and proved it with pic's and ask people who uses his sytem to the tee.

Plus any system and any room that has the perfect enviorment and enough root space can do the same.

Hydropimp said:

Who cares if the guy is an asshole he made it happen and proved it with pic's and ask people who uses his sytem to the tee.

Plus any system and any room that has the perfect enviorment and enough root space can do the same.

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Go talk with the guy and come back and say exactly what you just said. <- is what you'll get from him.

Your second comment is debatable. Really, one of the best things about his system was the low plant counts, but very large harvests. Of course you could take 300 plants and put them in the same sized room and yield just as well; but, in most parts of the world, jail time is directly proportionate to plant count. I would like to see DWC or ebb n' grow buckets get just the same; mind you I think they would be very close, but, probably slightly lower yield. Would I trade the ease of DWC or ebb n' grow buckets for a slightly lower yield? Hell yes!

nice save, i remember that thread, very informative.

OK what about using his room but putting a DWC system and his thompson pump?

Hydropimp said:

OK what about using his room but putting a DWC system and his thompson pump?

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Which has more air in it: water with air or air with a little water? Hence his whole "NFT" thing.

pumpkin2006 said:

Go talk with the guy and come back and say exactly what you just said. <- is what you'll get from him.

Your second comment is debatable. Really, one of the best things about his system was the low plant counts, but very large harvests. Of course you could take 300 plants and put them in the same sized room and yield just as well; but, in most parts of the world, jail time is directly proportionate to plant count. I would like to see DWC or ebb n' grow buckets get just the same; mind you I think they would be very close, but, probably slightly lower yield. Would I trade the ease of DWC or ebb n' grow buckets for a slightly lower yield? Hell yes!

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Lower yields you say from ebb and flow buckets BAH You just gotta hold your mouth right when you flip them.






Mr.Wags

I liked Krusty. Most of the people he went off on deserved it. The only thing that bothered me about him was how strict he got over his "system". Any variation brought down wrath regardless whether the change meant the same result. This type of soaker hose, that kind of pump, etc. Who cares really as long as the bubbles are the same.

The reason he had the following is because he had the results. People could bitch, complain, criticize, what have you, but could not compare to his success.