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1024 Watt Fluro Grow Dubphiend Revisited Fluoros Can Rival HID

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This is a legendary Dubphiend grow from OG. It shows Fluros coming out around .7 grams per watt**ok well first off this is going to be several posts to start. the first is about the cab overall, and the second post will be a closer look at the light racks please DONT post anything until the first 3 or so are up thanks!

This is the Work of Dub that someone requested I put up. This shows the power of T-8 Bulbs which are quite cost effective compared to T5 and easy to wire up..

"After doing some research on fluoro growing i was intrigued enough to scrap my 400hps hortilux C13 and try something new. So i first designed the 512W 48,000lumen T8 light rack with electronic ballasts. However, keeping the "ballast factor" in mind these number drop to 450watts @ 42,240 lumens...still not too bad for $100 worth of material. Yes this light rack only cost me $100! i dont want to hear that people cant afford good lighting anymore LOL... beofre i went ahead with the double decker idea, i thought id build a temporary grow box out of sheet metal. So essentially up until a week or so ago these plants were growing in what was essentially a huge peace of ductwork. My original idea was to just build a second cab if i liked the grow and stack it right on top...well i did do that but decided to make it a lot more sturdy and versatile.
What i came up with is what you see. A double decker cab made from 2x4's, 3/4"osb, and 26guage sheetmetal. Each cab measures 52"wide X 36" tall X 28" deep. Instead of moving the light closer to the plants i decided making rails that the floor could slide on and provide several levels to accomidate all ages of plants. The pictures will make this more clear. The cabs are each ducted bya 250cfm in-line duct fan that is then ducted through 6" un-insulated flex into a carbon scrubber i built a year or so ago and have been useing with my C13. The vent system isnt done for the top cab yet, so there are no pics of it but its pretty basic anyway. Its only to move air and a little bit of heat becuase these ballasts dont create much heat. The fans exchange the air in each cab a little voer 10 times a minute. for an intake is justa 6" hole that is tapped with 2 elbows to keep light in. The doors are also not finished for the top cab yet. I have them but need a hand hanging them.
With this setup i hope to get aperpetual harvest going. For the next year or so the 2 strains ill be useing will be Sensi Seed's Afghani #1, and Spice of Life's Legends Ultimate Indica. I have a minimum goal of 1lbs every 8 weeks. The top cab will hold 4 mothers, 2 of each strain, and the other half will be used for cloneing and veg. The veg half can hold up to 9 ladies in 2gal pots. The bottom cab currently has AK-48 in it and its 20 days into flowering. For more on that click the link in my sig. The top cab is loaded with 5000K tubes, and the bottom flowering cab is filled with 3000K. I will prob experiment with different mixed spectrums to see what works best. but i figured this would be the best starting place. also the light rack is wired such that the lights are staggered according to ballast which gives you the oppurtunity to have only half the lights on but still have complete coverage of the grow area. This is good for saving electricy when cloning, and also clones dont need all that light LOL. The temps stay in the high 80's toward the lights and about 72 at the flooor. Humidity fluctuates between 40 and 80% after i water humidity def goes up of course. for the most part is 50% though. Well, i think thats about it so heres the pictures. It sort of the process in building the cab, from start to finish.
Pic 1 Just getting started



Pic 2 One side skeleton done
Pic 3 Now with the metal


Pic 4 One side done the oter not

Pic 5 both done


Pic 6 built and in my room (excuse the mess my dog tear shit up lol)


Pic 7 front side view into it


Pic 8 now in the actual grow room with its lights on


Pic 9 now with the doors shut (and you can see the top corner of the carbon scrubber)


Pic 10 The cab DONE!"
 
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oops here the last pic and rememebr please no posts until i get this light rack post finished lol
 

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Ok this is just a close up of how i biult the light rack. Ill try not toi get into too much detail. Its pretty easy but i thought id show my process and maybe spark some ideas out there. the pics say it all so here ya go.

Pic 1 Caulking (liquid nail) the lampholders in place (1/4" apart). Caulking seems to work best for me.


Pic 2 everything read to be wired. i take an 18/4 thermostat wire and stip it them cut up equal leads, and then strip all the ends. i like to use different colors because it keeps the wireing more clear...things get crowded and cofusing sometimes.


Pic 3 Heres the leads pressed into the lamp holders and then ran through an 1/8" hole


Pic 4 The electronic ballats


Pic 5 Close up which shows the wireing diagram

Pic 6 a mess of wired lol, theres not to many ways around it IMHO.


Pic 7 rack all done and wired


Pic 8 installed and turned on


Pic 9 half the lights lit


Pic 10 this shows how close the floor and get for seedlings and clones




 

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" hey i got a few questions about how i build this light rack for $100 so instead of typing basically the same thing again im just going to copy a post i wrote a few days ago explaining it all... should help a lot...also just thought id share a pic of the seeds that started germing today

"yea home depot can lick my fat sac haha... call around to your local electrical suppliers...the warehouses that would sell to electricians and stuff...tell em what you need... the place i called was more then cooperative and the salesman whos been helping me really knew his shit about fluorescent lighting... here i just went and bought an entire new setup for another cab... ill run ya down the cost... ok quantity of 4 four lamp 32w t8 electronic ballasts $15.63 ea. which is $62.52 total..... 16 5000K t8 tubes (sylvania) 1.98 each which is $31.68 total, 32 lamp holders at $.37 each give ya $11.84 total...add those together for a grand total of $106.04 plus tax...not bad huh? id tell ya the name of the place i buy from but they are local and not a national franchise so it wouldnt do many of you much help and it would sort of let you narrow down where i live LOL... but im tellin ya..just get in the phone book and start callin...make everycompany run you through the order item by item and get a total price..tell them to give you a quote number and they will store it in their computer...after you've called all the palces near by see which one is cheapest and call back with the quote number, tell them to put it on "will call" and when you walk in the door it will bge all packed up waiting for you... thats how most plkaces work...hope that helps..yea fuck home depot...when i had prced this stuff the first time i went to buy it all (online) it was like $250... when i called this electrical supply place he said "$96 +tax and i almost shit (the first one was cheaper because 3000K tubes are like $.50 less)... good luck""
 

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i seem to be the only one posting on here lol but if anyones watching heres some more pics... got some seedlings in the top cab now so the first pic is the whole cab, you can kind of see the carbon scrubber on the left, the second pic is a close of the cups, and the third lets you see just half the lights lit which is ideal for seedlings and clones


 

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yea thast what im finding out...these things are pumpin out resin like crazy! i didnt see resin until day 33 last grow with this, and this is a pic from day 25! however the big colas are dense but not like an hps...however i still predict a larger yield then i eer got in my c 13
 

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:yes: nice work chosen.. i remember dubphiends grows from OG and the setups he made, are u doing a replica of it??, if so i wish ya luck with it too, will be fun following your grow . :dance:
 
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well heres some updates... got my fan today, got all the duct i needed, and hopefully this weekend i should have the entire vent system finished..i still have to build a new piece to add on to my scrubber but that should take too long.... i also plan to hang the doors this weekend..got the hinges and harware for it.....also i got some new toys int he mail today...all the thing i will need to do a SOG... got 100 6"square pots but i only figured on fitting 32 of them in there which would give me 4 plants/sq. ft but i managed to stuff 45 of them in there which will give me 5.5plants per square/ft! me likely lol.... so i also got 2 20"X10" trays, and 6" clear humidity domes, some tiger bloom to hopefully fix my somewhat sick plants (they are just hungry i think).... the little organic starter plugs were just a last minute thing..i usualy use jiffy peat pellets to clone but these looked interesting so i got a bunch of them...thats about it... not to get carried away or anything i did crunch some rough but very reasonable numbers and if i can pull 14g per plant in a SOG system i will be looking at a ballpark yield of 1.5lbs!!! not too bad for fluoros LOL... PEACE![WRAP]














 
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nice setup brotha, thanks for sharin, was about to crash... goin to have to check out this thread in more detail tommorow, but I like how you use your cab. later, bartender187
 

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It's not mine. This is Dub's. A friend asked me to send it to him. Yet, There were too many files to do it. So, I shared it with everyone.
 

kooki

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ahh cool, :yes: got me thinking u were doing a replica lol.. which is a shame as its a good design and shown to work before. But a grow design worthy of being saved since OG no more. Good stuff chosen
 

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I've built the fluoro rack this way. I like it in short spaces. It's cool running & gets the light all around without worrying about a single point of light. Each 512 watt rack is really only 450 watts of energy.

"well actually i say that 512 to atract attention...in reality once you use that "ballast factor" bullshit here in the US...its 450watts..still more then the c13 but still..pisses me off haha"
 

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At the end of this grow, Dub ended up yielding around .7 grams per watt or somewheres around 350 grams per 512 watt rack.
 
So is it 16 bulbs for both top and bottom? 32 total? And is the wiring you showed and priced just for the one half? Meaning the wires for the top half would be on ?top? of the cab? Also I see the ballasts in post #5 but where are they in pic #7 post 1? I'm going to read up on exactly how to wire as I have never done it but it seems pretty simple. Excuse my ignorance but I am very intrigued by this as I have a similar yield goal and I'm new at this. Thanks
 
help!!! PLEASE!

help!!! PLEASE!

BUMP. can someone please offer some insight? + rep for am informative reply. But thought that went without saying. ANyway help out a noob PLEASE!!!!!!:1help:
 

rokuez

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great thread


this looks like the largest fluro grow i've seen sense og days

please keep this updated
 

Runt

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I have three 1024´s in week three -so far beautiful and very uniform plants. How´s the smoke?
 

Ky_Uss

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@Runt: Op probably won´t know because this is not his grow but apparently one he was able to safe before Overgrow went down. I´m glad he did, and i´m glad you bumped it!

Hi from a fellow T8 fan!
 

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