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Dutch Master Gold

thecarguy

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In my experiment, AN worked out to about 10-15% more concentrated, by ppm, than Dutch Master's Gold. AN was not as pH stable as Dutch, either. However, their results are 100% comparable in terms of yield.
 
i just started using the dm gold. what do you guys run your ph at? i printed out a feeding schedule from dm website and they said to run 5.5-5.8. i used to use gh 3 part and ran it at 5.8-6.2
 

stoney419

Member
I'm on my third cycle with DM Gold Flower A&B. I was using GH 3 part and still do in veg. Hope they run out soon so I can make the change to DM. I also use the Liquid Light w/Penetrator at full strength. Compared to GH, all I can say is WOW! Other than the nutes, my set-up is identical. Yield is up almost 40%!!
I used the nute calculator on the DM site, the hard water formula, just in case (I don't have hard water). Occasionally I see symptoms of overfeeding, but thats more attributed to my strain. It's real touchy.
I also use Pure Flowers bloom booster. This new phosphite technology is the shit! My first cycle with DM Gold was without a bloom booster as DM advises. I found the yield a bit lacking. Still better than GH, but the Pure Flowers put it over the top.
When I use the Liquid Light, I too get the serious droop.The next day it's gone and the plants are much bigger.
Overall I would say DM Gold has delivered on everything promised.
Now if someone could just come up with a strain that trims itself, I'd be in heaven!

just picked up some DM gold for a buddy been using the conni for a while
how much pure flowers bloom booster you use in what weeks
 
do you guys use additional bloom stimulators in the later weeks?
they recommend that you do not use any, but i think thats crazy.
i want to reduce the base nutrient and add another bloom stimulator, any protests or advice?
 
I checked PPM. I'm running about 1150 at the start of flower. Then 1300 and on to 1600 at peak. All these figures include the Pure Flowers at about 1ml. per gallon, which is exactly what the manuf. recommends. Thats where I started, it worked well, so why change. I suspect overuse by just a little would be disasterous, it's HIGHLY concentrated.

I'm growing in 3gal. bags of Promix with some extra perlite (25%) and a pinch of lime. I keep the Ph of my solution around 6.3 to 6.4. Seems high, I know. But the run off is around 5.7 to 5.8. I also feed with every watering.
I think the medium should be holding at 5.8 to 6.0. Don't know if thats the proper procedure to balance medium Ph, but it seems to be working very well.

All this is in a Northern Farmer style stadium. If you're not familiar with his work, I suggest you check it out. Very efficient use of space! I dont have a link handy, but his thread is on icmag as well as other forums.
Fred
 
Stoney: Yes, I use the Pure Flowers at every feed. The first feed, right at the flip, I use about 20% less. I've played around with different amounts, but found the 1ml. to the gallon works best for me.
 

shiva das

Member
Sounds like pure flowers is the only booster people are use.....is anyone else using anything different? I've never even seen pure flowers, I guess I could special order it. I just started GOLD. I am in the second week of flowering. The first night of application I noticed a nice growth. so far so good. I feel a booster would be a good thing.
 

toohighmf

Well-known member
Veteran
I'm doing a comparrison of the Lucas formula vs gold and I'm going to add barricade for silicates/up,
Humax or other humic/fulvic concentrates,
And hydroplex, calmg+
Roots excelurater,
Superthrive
H2o2 flushes every res change..

I've used gold in veg at 300 ppms and it was the best growth rates I ever seen.
Conny was offered to me for free, but with all the bad batches, I'm stayin away from AN this run with the exception of barricade, and I will use the rest of my carbo, and emerald shamen.
 

stoney419

Member
I'm doing a comparrison of the Lucas formula vs gold and I'm going to add barricade for silicates/up,
Humax or other humic/fulvic concentrates,
And hydroplex, calmg+
Roots excelurater,
Superthrive
H2o2 flushes every res change..

I've used gold in veg at 300 ppms and it was the best growth rates I ever seen.
Conny was offered to me for free, but with all the bad batches, I'm stayin away from AN this run with the exception of barricade, and I will use the rest of my carbo, and emerald shamen.
how mutch h202 do u add to a 70 gal res and u just put it in flood and change res and keep me posted on the results I'm doing a side by side test with tri flex and D M GOLD and i love the gold best stuff ever used in veg
 

toohighmf

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Veteran
To clean out my system on the flush, I'll use upwards 10ml/gallon, but I would probably just do 500ml/50-75gallons. That is a LOT! But it oxidizes the roots on the flush so I think even though my flush is 0ppm, the oxidizer tends to activate some of the salts and plants seem to grow like crazy. Just an observation. I know that h2o2 is said to reduce the effiacy of ferts, but I believe that o2 from an airstone would technically do the same thing.. I'm not a chemist at all, but I have performed my own "experiments" and find h2o2 to be very "beneficial" to straight hydro solution.
 
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moses224

Anyone running LL w.o penetrator? I am now as I didn't know it was required. I order it so should have this week but curious if im wasting my time w/o penetrator?
 

toohighmf

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Veteran
I've seen liquid light so some serious damage and even saw deformities on some strains, while others seem to respond very well. Liquid light makes the foliage so reflective, that leaves start to invert towards lower foliage. Very strange. I am the only one who sees this? Penetrator and zone are part of DM's flowering schedule, with gold AB. Foliars can only be applied before budsets begin to form. I'm not a big fan of foliars in bloom. I pretty much stop spraying my plants with anything after I flip to bloom.
 
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I think that runnin the LL without penetrator is a waste.


toohighmf I'm not a big fan of foliars in bloom. I pretty much stop spraying my plants with anything after I flip to bloom.

we spray ours twice after being flipped into flower and they love it. give em a good feeding of nutes and a spray of some LL and penetrator and its on bud sites popping out of everywhere. any later than 2 weeks into flower seems like its probably not a great idea.just my:2cents:
 
To clean out my system on the flush, I'll use upwards 10ml/gallon, but I would probably just do 500ml/50-75gallons. That is a LOT!

are you using 35% or 3%? i tried ordeirng hy-ox but the distributor told me that its discontinued. have you tried zone? seems pretty efficient if it works at 1ml/gal.
 

Capn

Member
Does anyone use Dutch Master Max Flower here? I just got dutch master gold and plan on using it with Dutch Master Potash+, Max, Liquid Karma, DM Zone, and Silica Blast.

What are your thoughts about this?
 
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