Cloning in Coco

Grateful D · Sep 6, 2010

I was wondering if anyone had any experience cloning in coco. Success rate, how ling it takes, any helpful advice or tips. Any information at all would be really helpful! thanks everyone! also I'm having some problems with Ph lockout growing in 100% coco, I am using H3ads/Rez's recipe and one of my friends recommended raising the PH on what plant to 6.0 for a week and see if that has any positive effect. does anyone have any other ideas for solutions to this problem, i was thinking Epsom salts but Ive heard both good and bad things regusrdig this technique anyone with any input would be greatly appreciated. thanks

sci-fi · Sep 10, 2010

I clone in coco with great success. almost 100%. Biggest thing to watch out for is not getting it to wet. I usually keep my dome on for first couple days (vents open) then take off. besides that they usually root in about 7-10 days. Peeps say u don't even need a dome w/ coco and their probably right. coco stays pretty moist and if your cuts have long stems they will provide plenty of moisture to them.

sci-fi · Sep 10, 2010

I like using these little cups and drill holes in the bottom for drainage. hope it helps

PoopyTeaBags · Sep 11, 2010

i use small clear cups fill half way take cuts put them in cloning solution plant them in coco water with cloning solution and a little gro nutes... roots in 7-10 days 100% success... No dome hear.

sci-fi · Sep 11, 2010

mk6 · Sep 11, 2010

Im at 100% in coco so far... but it all starts with a healthy mom and good environment - I dont ,and wont use a dome anymore, and dont mist-m-either, I was killing my clones trying to acclimate-m out, they would quickly dry-up an die.

Now, I cut-m, gel-m w/clonex an place-m in a moist party cup with a few holes on the bottom, and 7 to 10 days they root. these are 12 days from cut, and ready (as Im doing here) for transplanting. its a 70%flushed coco with %30perlite mix, an i water- w/ro, every other day untell they pop, then every day...

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slowandeasy · Sep 12, 2010

PoopyTeaBags said:
i use small clear cups fill half way take cuts put them in cloning solution plant them in coco water with cloning solution and a little gro nutes... roots in 7-10 days 100% success... No dome hear.

What cloning solution do you use? I use clear cups and set them inside a cup that is lightproofed. Roots 6-10 days. The trick to cloning right in Coco is the moisture level. Since I use clear cups I can see the moisture and its effects on the rooting process. The coco needs to be moist, thats all. Anything more than that and it will take longer and the roots do not seek water...since they are so wet.

I hydrate with just RO water after a few days...but not much at all. Once I see roots, I bottom feed for a few days. This makes the roots Explode! Top water too soon, you are doing more harm than good. Using this method will speed up your whole process, I promise. Coco holds alot of Moisture, if your Temps are around 80 and humidity 50 percent or so...you will not fail. I Soak in Roots Excell, dip in clone gel, then put into cup...no trimming or misting. Good luck.

Grateful D · Sep 12, 2010

Thanks for all the great info guys! im gonna make my cuts in the next couple of days ill post some pics when i cut them!

darko_G · Nov 4, 2010

gonna try cloning in coco soon now i read this. me and rockwool are not buddies

Hazyfontazy · Nov 4, 2010

darko_G said:
gonna try cloning in coco soon now i read this. me and rockwool are not buddies

cloning in coco and rockwool are as easy as each other ,prepare in the same way ,they are both hydro ,low dose nutrients around 1.0 ec and ph5.8,, the condition of the mother plant is the most important aspect .

medical marvel · Nov 4, 2010

i too have found cloning in coco is a bit better than when i used rockwool, peat pucks, promix etc.

I still need a dome for a few days this dry time of year...or its instant wilt.

I always use a large clear rubbermaid bin..so even if the lid is on..there is a large amount of air and a good moisture level.
I usually lift the lid and fan the inside about 6 times a day.

somoz · Nov 5, 2010

We use the little clear plastic dixie cups so we can see when they root, 2 drilled holes in the bottom for run off and mix up a little grow nutes(flora) .4 ppm and drench the coco. No perlite, just straight coco and usually 7-14 days to root pending strain. Water once before inserting and then usually not for another 5-7 days.

Also, one of the little tricks we found was that if the coco isn't compact, meaning when you insert your cut it isn't tightly in the cup the root rate goes down. That, no perlite and no domes. Almost 100% with 100+ cuts each a time.

Best of luck with the propagation.

InNvBoarder · Nov 5, 2010

Do you use any Drip clean or salt leaching agent for your coco? If you have lock-out maybe its from a salt buildup in your medium. All the chemical nute can do that to you. Get some drip clean from House and Gardens line, will change your life!
Cloning in coco is easy, take a cut, use a cloning gel if you want. I never do. stick the stem all the way to the bottom of the cup, get its wet with ph'ed water (5.8) and wait. its easy but make sure you have good drain holes all around the bottom of the cups. Do not use clear cups, lets molds and fungus and whatever else grow much easier! Roots grow the best in the pitch black. Think about mother nature, theres no light underground

slowandeasy · Nov 5, 2010

InNvBoarder said:
Do you use any Drip clean or salt leaching agent for your coco? If you have lock-out maybe its from a salt buildup in your medium. All the chemical nute can do that to you. Get some drip clean from House and Gardens line, will change your life!
Cloning in coco is easy, take a cut, use a cloning gel if you want. I never do. stick the stem all the way to the bottom of the cup, get its wet with ph'ed water (5.8) and wait. its easy but make sure you have good drain holes all around the bottom of the cups. Do not use clear cups, lets molds and fungus and whatever else grow much easier! Roots grow the best in the pitch black. Think about mother nature, theres no light underground

That is what a cover cup is for! Try it sometime, I bet your rooting time gets better. You can see everything...once you remove the dark outer cup!!!

GanjaPharma · Nov 5, 2010

i make a hole in small plastic cups with a 1/2" hole bit 30 or so fit nice in a black tray. although i have used wax dixie cups, seedling tray inserts, ice cube trays, evn big red dixie cups filled 2/3 of the way....all worked great.

i use a heatmat at 72.
completely agree with the statement about tight packing, coir never gets OVERcompressed. and i use no gel, just roots excelurator (from H&G) in the water i wet the coir with. and no dome.

someotherguy · Jul 23, 2011

sci-fi said:
I like using these little cups and drill holes in the bottom for drainage. hope it helps

I know this is an old thread so if you're still around you probably already know this trick but for those who read this that might not, the absolute easiest way to 'drill' holes in plastic cups is to use a soldering iron.

Peace, SOG

beejium · Jul 28, 2011

someotherguy said:
I know this is an old thread so if you're still around you probably already know this trick but for those who read this that might not, the absolute easiest way to 'drill' holes in plastic cups is to use a soldering iron.

Peace, SOG

shhhh can't let secrets out like that. What are you thinking?
Just do so in a well ventilated area.

dgr · Jul 30, 2011

someotherguy said:
I know this is an old thread so if you're still around you probably already know this trick but for those who read this that might not, the absolute easiest way to 'drill' holes in plastic cups is to use a soldering iron.

Peace, SOG

Nice hot screw driver. Do a stack in one go. Then I don't have to find the sal ammoniac to clean my soldering iron.

Can't believe someone neg repped beejium's post.

beejium · Jul 31, 2011

dgr said:
Nice hot screw driver. Do a stack in one go. Then I don't have to find the sal ammoniac to clean my soldering iron.

Can't believe someone neg repped beejium's post.

Just a scratch, no biggie.
I just dip it in water while on (not safe, never said I do things the smart way) just to where the tip screws into the base. Then I wipe down with a damp sponge to get any of the plastic residue off. After that I shut it off and set it on it's stand to cool and coil up the cord for storage. I also use an old pairing knife to scrape off the really cruddy parts.
If you are afraid to get bit unplug it first and make sure it is dry before you use it again.

Rosy Cheeks · Jul 31, 2011

mk6 said:
I dont ,and wont use a dome anymore, and dont mist-m-either, I was killing my clones trying to acclimate-m out, they would quickly dry-up an die.

Now, I cut-m, gel-m w/clonex an place-m in a moist party cup with a few holes on the bottom, and 7 to 10 days they root.

I realize that it's a bit late for commentaries, but...

It sounds like you're saying that by keeping humidity down, your clones fair much better and root in record time.

The whole idea with a dome is to create a controlled environment where air humidity is very high, let's say in the range of 90% or higher. This is important in the first days after cutting the clones.

It's when humidity is low that the clones quickly dry up and die, not the other way around. I believe you probably shocked the clones by going from a hot/humid environment to a colder/dryer environment, that's why they died. It must be done gradually, or they croak.

But, whatever works for you is fine by me, I just wonder a little about what type of environment your clones develop in.

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