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Snype

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Yeah the cuts are doing well in the VEG-A system. This is the first time in a couple of years that I went from the EZ Cloner to VEG-A. I've been using Grodan Mini-Blocks which require much different watering schedules than what I'm using now. I'm also using different techniques than I've used in the past. I'm trying out some new things to try and make an easier template for others to follow. I used 2 pumps in the rez this time. 2 really small ones and smaller E&F fittings. In the future, many more growers are going to get into RDWC because the growth rates are incredible.

We were up until 1am harvesting. Snypette has been doing really well. I don't trust many people to harvest my tops but she is the best at this and did all the tops herself. I got rid of the other 2 trimmers because they suck and I have to babysit them to make sure they don't fuck anything up. They will be back tomorrow to do the smaller stuff that I don't care much about.

I really just want to lay in bed today. I'm so tired and there's so much to do that it's like never ending work.

I have new breeding projects that I'm working on! I finally figured out some breeding projects that make sense. I'm trying to get this ChemDD into seed form so that you guys can experience this as well. I believe that i'm on the right path! Time will tell.
 
What a great thread!!!!! I love checking in and seeing all the amazing progress you guys are making!!

Anytime I think im overloaded with garden work, I just think of everything you got going on:) Im sure you are a source of motivation for many of us lol

Good luck on the ChemDD seed project. Positive vibes are being sent your way:)
 

captinahab

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You going to get a bud trimmer for your big outdoor harvest. with 2 good workers and 2 people slowing you down its going to be tuff (but doable) to meet the deadline... Its going to be last night x 20 that why outdoor growers take a big vacation after harvest. Its tiring work to say the least.... always tring to beat the weather. I guess if it get to bad you can just pull the fan leaves in the feild and hang them inside whole to trim when you get caught up.
 

Snype

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You going to get a bud trimmer for your big outdoor harvest. with 2 good workers and 2 people slowing you down its going to be tuff (but doable) to meet the deadline... Its going to be last night x 20 that why outdoor growers take a big vacation after harvest. Its tiring work to say the least.... always tring to beat the weather. I guess if it get to bad you can just pull the fan leaves in the feild and hang them inside whole to trim when you get caught up.

I really hate the idea of these electric trimmers. I almost bought a Twister or Satellite but it didn't feel right. Instead I just adjusted my grow so that I don't have more than 4,000 watts being harvested every 2 weeks.

If the outdoor works out, I'm pretty sure I'll be using a Satellite to harvest most of it. I don't see any other way. The good thing is that my grow shop that I go to has Satellites for rent so I'm going to try one out and see what kind of a job that it does.

The way that I see it now is that the other trimmers that I hire besides Snypette suck. I might actually get better results from a electric trimmer because most people that I work with don't pay attention to what they are cutting. They will end up cutting up a little of the buds which really annoys me because I put a lot of work into my grows. I like to get up inside the buds and get the stems of any leaf that has at least 3 fans but the other trimmers end up leaving some of the stem of the leaf and then I have to go back and fix it during my quality control phase. It just creates more work for me and I gotta pay these people more than a electric trimer would cost me.

In reality none of this really matters because most of my bud is being turned into Hash Oil products so I shouldn't be so uptight, at least now.
 

dissolute

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they'r good machines but it def takes time to destem each little bud, it takes like 2 people full time to feed one of those big ones, and another to final manicure often.

how about selfing the ChemDD with silver instead of breeding?
 

immortal

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Damn trimmers, I bet you showed them how to do it your way about 5 times and they still failed to pay attention. How do you like the T-5 for vegging your clones? How far away from them do you have it? looks like 8-12 inches. I like them alot for smaller plants and ive even flowered some ak47 under 1 before. Did you guys put together any of the cold frames yet?
 

captinahab

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Damn trimmers, I bet you showed them how to do it your way about 5 times and they still failed to pay attention. How do you like the T-5 for vegging your clones? How far away from them do you have it? looks like 8-12 inches. I like them alot for smaller plants and ive even flowered some ak47 under 1 before. Did you guys put together any of the cold frames yet?

Until you grow for a living....growing is just fun and carefree. I went to help a buddy trim some autos he was running 6 month ago. I did the whole plant and filled 2 hangers.... i looked over and he was still on his first stem.

I leave most of those 3 leaves stems on myself because i half to go back and cut all my buds down to .3 to .5 gram nugs anyway. Nobody wants 30 gram colas... not even 7 gram colas......its retarded. By the time its dry and shrinks down , i can cut all the bud off while leaving the 3 leaf stems still attached to the main stem. The stem looks like a dead tree when im done processing it. I never keep colas myself. i smoke the larf and give the best out.
 

Kalyx

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Awesome work with everything Snype. Your Chemdd will be amazing im sure. Finding quality trimmers always seems to be an issue. I myself am just too picky with how I want my flowers manicured. I could never rely on trusting or trying to train someone to do it my way. With the type of harvest you have I'm sure you need those extra sets of hands or a machine or it will be a never ending task.
 

Snype

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they'r good machines but it def takes time to destem each little bud, it takes like 2 people full time to feed one of those big ones, and another to final manicure often.

how about selfing the ChemDD with silver instead of breeding?

Thanks for the information! As far as selfing, I'm just not a big fan of S1's, at least right now. Maybe that will change one day.

Damn trimmers, I bet you showed them how to do it your way about 5 times and they still failed to pay attention. How do you like the T-5 for vegging your clones? How far away from them do you have it? looks like 8-12 inches. I like them alot for smaller plants and ive even flowered some ak47 under 1 before. Did you guys put together any of the cold frames yet?
I showed them way more than 5 times. People just aren't as anal as me when it comes down to quality. They'll tell me things like weed is weed, it's all the same. They told me that for months and I said if all weed is just weed then why do you refuse to smoke certain things from the outside. LOL! It's just how it is, i'm used to these types of things from people.

As far as Vegging, I start the T5's 18" away from the plants for the first 3 or 4 days. I'm focusing on root development for those first few days. As I increase the watering schedule, I lower the lights until I'm flooding every hour and then the lights are right on top of the plants. I would never VEG plants like this with anything other than T5's for initial stress related reasons. We are trying to get the cold frames up but there's been some complications. Hopefully they will be up after this weekend.
 

captinahab

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I showed them way more than 5 times.
You hired corey and treavor
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captinahab

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I always had a bias against t5's till i saw a buddy veggin 6ft plants under them..... now i use it in the summer for the moms..... love the low heat.
 

Snype

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how many bulbs per bay ?

I use Sunleaves Pioneer 6 Bulb With VitaLume Plus Grow Bulbs. There are 2 switches on it with allow one switch to control 2 middle bulbs and the other switch controls 4 bulbs that are spread out. I only use 4 bulbs for the first 4-6 days and then I'll use the 6 bulbs for only a few days before they get transferred to VEG-B into RDWC. The point of VEG-A is to prepare the plants for RDWC. The plants respond much better in VEG-A and I get 100% success rates where as when I went from cloner into the RDWC, they would take a while to respond and some crops would just die. I formed a conclusion a while ago that if you grow out your plants roots before placing them into RDWC, you will have higher success rates or lower failure rates if you keep your conditions in the line that I state in my RDWC threads.

This doesn't mean that it is wrong to go from the cloner right to RDWC because others may have better success than me. I can only go on what I see from my own variables but I've also seen lots of RDWC threads online with very slow growth rates going right from clone to RDWC.
 

Snype

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All the tops are done! About 180 good size tops which could yield 2700 grams and there's probably still 4 pounds left in secondary tops and mids on 2 systems. As you can see I'm running low on Bloom. I have another full 6 Gallon on hand! One of the tops from tonight. She was medium size compared to some others:
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Snype

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The weather is much warmer now so I have to adjust my techniques to dry properly. I don't want things to dry to fast so after 1 to 2 days, I move the coat hangers really close together. The buds should still feel wet on the outside but if they were further apart, they would feel dry to the touch in 3 days in my current conditions. I do not want that to happen. I keep them further apart for the first 2 days because the buds could mold. After there are no mold concerns after that time, I place the buds very close together because I want to slow down the drying process. I check on things every 12 hours to feel and see what is going on to see if I need to change anything. I also have a fan on them for the first 2 days but then I keep the fan on but pointed below them but not facing the buds.
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medicalmj

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medi, can Ya tell Me what brand solar cameras You prefer. Hell I never knew they existed. I need to tighten up.lol
Are You talking, like trail cams 4 hunters, that are solar?

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Shit changes so fast in that biz what was good last year may be obsolete today. Here's my 2 cents, find one that allows for the solar panel to connect via cable so it can be mounted out of sight and in full sun, which may not be where camera is, and with good battery back up. Then read the reviews.

As far as the old school ones you are referring to, eh, don't even think they make em anymore. Although my buddy watched the 5-0 rolling in on one shortly after some low flying copters came through at his "deer camp"...all he could say was "Fuck, here we go..." No where to run, no where to hide. Took a plea and got probation.
 

medicalmj

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Dogs are good. I like German Shepherd Dogs. Smart and if trained well obedient. That's why the military uses them.
My buddy just got himself an Australian Cattle Dog to help out around the "farm". Interesting to see how it turns out. Like you, I would of done the German Shepard though.
 

captinahab

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This doesn't mean that it is wrong to go from the cloner right to RDWC because others may have better success than me. I can only go on what I see from my own variables but I've also seen lots of RDWC threads online with very slow growth rates going right from clone to RDWC.

I always broke open my cubes when the roots were 1/2 long and threw the cubes away (i had bag of them). I flood high and didnt want any rockwool in my hydroton. They went into 100% strength nutes under 1000k. They would droop for 2 hours but by hour 8 they were reaching. 2 days later i had roots out the bottom.

Every once in a while id have one or two fail. If you have a small saftey table with 4 extra you can replace them.... if they all made it you cut the 4 week ones and empty the safty table till next time. But i grew single cola sog with a max plant high 24 in tall so i didnt want any extra hight from the plants. If you do not put the 6 inch square pots touching each other forming a solid block (like you have them spaced out more) i would definitly see why you do some short veg to beef them up. It definitely can not hurt to give them a non shocking start.


 

Snype

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I always broke open my cubes when the roots were 1/2 long and threw the cubes away (i had bag of them). I flood high and didnt want any rockwool in my hydroton. They went into 100% strength nutes under 1000k. They would droop for 2 hours but by hour 8 they were reaching. 2 days later i had roots out the bottom.

Every once in a while id have one or two fail. If you have a small saftey table with 4 extra you can replace them.... if they all made it you cut the 4 week ones and empty the safty table till next time. But i grew single cola sog with a max plant high 24 in tall so i didnt want any extra hight from the plants. If you do not put the 6 inch square pots touching each other forming a solid block (like you have them spaced out more) i would definitly see why you do some short veg to beef them up. It definitely can not hurt to give them a non shocking start.



My RDWC systems are 10 plants each which means that I only need 20 plants and there are 30 plants in VEG-A in 2 systems. That means that I throw the worst 10 away after about day 7. I also take extra cuttings in the cloner and throw out the worst ones as well. The 10 in the system, I'm going to put outside into trash cans or something like that. Should be a fun little experiment.
 

captinahab

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Man you make me.wanna bust out my ksg (kentucky skunk girl) on the tables and see how quick i can get em to turn over.... shes so fast. This is a pic of her at week 3 day 2 in soil with no co2 (it says week 4 in the pic cuz i rounded up). Bet i could pull it in 3.5 weeks on tables.

 
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