What happens when real commercial breeders take over?
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Bob Green
I think there will be some cash left for regular peeps. Just no where near what is happening now. I see it like a carpenter that gets to build a side deck or fix a roof for a friend. Will they be making the same money as a large construction company hell no! Or a mechanic that fixes cars on the side. But he will never be able to touch the cash of a big dealership.
That goes for connoisseur headstash. I believe the "breeders" will be fucked though for the record. Most of my friends and family in the PNW will look at you like a total dumbass for spending the amount of money and time it takes to find a world class pheno. Why would they if you can get top notch proven world class clones for $10 - $20?
There is always exceptions to the rule but...
That goes for connoisseur headstash. I believe the "breeders" will be fucked though for the record. Most of my friends and family in the PNW will look at you like a total dumbass for spending the amount of money and time it takes to find a world class pheno. Why would they if you can get top notch proven world class clones for $10 - $20?
There is always exceptions to the rule but...
Keep eating that GMO, and I will try my hardest not to eat it and we will see who fares better.
Lets check back in 100 years, I bet we are both dead.
It's honestly not about the length of life but the quality of life.
The proof for me is that since adopting this life style 2 years ago I have not been sick once not even so much as a sniffle. I also used to suffer from seasonal allergies and now the season comes and it has no effect on me.
My whole life I was a chronic sufferer of sinus infections and now I haven't had one in years.
Just thinking about how I used to feel makes me hurt and feel depressed.
Wow.
Can't believe I was prohibited from really enjoying life because of the food I ate.
It's like LSD... if you've never done it, it's very difficult to understand what some one (who has) is talking about.
Only in this case... it's the absence of chemicals that causes the epiphany. LOL
Stay Safe!
CHillTowneGenes
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I will be happy when the likes of the monsantos, and any other greedy fuck is eradicated. it should be illegal to put profits before people, top to bottom is my rationale, and or logic. im with tom, people shouldn't be going to jail for weed, and nobody should want for the laws to stay the same being that that is the case. I also agree that big pharma, and the gene modifiers shouldn't be able to monopolize and condense everything down to one or a few versions to keep them in the lead, or head of the pack... the GMOs a ridiculous. how did our grand parents eat, and our great grand, and everyone before GMOs, how did they take care of pests. and weeds? how was their health in relation to ours in general. its in your face every day, and no one cane make you do one thing or the next, but this is your life to live if you are concerned about the quality of your later years then what you do now is paramount...
yeah I can see on the Monsantos it is as much the way they go about their business, and that does kick things toward a pessimistic evaluation no doubt. Frank Morton has some good reading on his wild garden seed site about his legal battle with them, and some other interesting reading too, he's a lettuce breeder. but I am basically an optimistic person, the human spirit fights on, the future is undecided.
agreed the legality issue is pathetic, absurd, pure shit, and needs to be changed.
Apodo
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Of course the legalization must occur, nevertheless as long as the as the UN international treaty's are in effect:
Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961 as amended by the 1972 Protocol Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971
United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.
US can legalize medical marijuana or legalized and taxed in Colorado, but the rest of the world is still enforced by this international laws.
Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961 as amended by the 1972 Protocol Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971
United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.
US can legalize medical marijuana or legalized and taxed in Colorado, but the rest of the world is still enforced by this international laws.
What happens when real commercial breeders take over?
The Greenhouse Seedcompany will happen. With coloured f1-seed, that are feminized. It is not possible to breed with this shit, so you always have to buy the coloured stuff that produces weed which tastes like a cheap fruit-flavored taffy.
The Greenhouse Seedcompany will happen. With coloured f1-seed, that are feminized. It is not possible to breed with this shit, so you always have to buy the coloured stuff that produces weed which tastes like a cheap fruit-flavored taffy.
You're not supposed to be putting the seeds in your mouth my friend.
You can breed with feminized seeds btw....
You can breed with feminized seeds btw....
Greenfireseeds
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Start growing what you eat now!
Greenfireseeds
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Check mphgardener on YouTube
nah man, even folks with big marketing $ like greenhouse WILL bite the dust, unless they team up with REAL big players like basf/bayer, syngenta and co...
and the sad thing is, i feel like the greediest "seed makers/vendors" will be the first ones, to jump on the pharma train as a means to pitch sales, and polish up their "reputation" even more... looking at the crystal ball, i can see franco leaving the GH company, to become bayers mascott/spokesman MUHHAAHA
and the sad thing is, i feel like the greediest "seed makers/vendors" will be the first ones, to jump on the pharma train as a means to pitch sales, and polish up their "reputation" even more... looking at the crystal ball, i can see franco leaving the GH company, to become bayers mascott/spokesman MUHHAAHA
Thank you for that advice. But when the colour is not for eating, which purpose has it then?
You can breed with a 9 pheno f1 too, the question is, if you want to to do the extra work....
Waldgärtner
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When real breeders get in this business maybe something worth calling a variety will finally hit the market.
Nowadays most "breeders" just cross Kushes with Skunks, give it a fancy name and sell the resulting mess of phenotypes for way too much. Have you ever seen tomato seeds selling at 10 bucks a piece? I don't think so.
Nowadays most "breeders" just cross Kushes with Skunks, give it a fancy name and sell the resulting mess of phenotypes for way too much. Have you ever seen tomato seeds selling at 10 bucks a piece? I don't think so.
bluntmassa
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I'd love it veggie seeds are stable as hell and dirt cheap. the problem is that most breeders pump out crosses put a cool name on them and charge you like 10 dollars a seed thats greedy if you ask me. most breeders don't even make an attempt to stabilize there strains yet in their description they make it sound like they will breed true.
only thing that will really be hurt are the pollen chuckers I'm sure dj short, mr. nice, serious seeds, and a few others will be around but breeders like devils harvest etc. are gonna get screwed.
How do you figure breeding with fems is extra work?
I explained it not correct. The seeds which are sold by greenhouse are instable with a lot of phenos. Thats not suitable for breeding.
Then there is at least the rumor, that breeding with fems highers the chance of hermies. Look at the disaster of Dutch Passion. Their female version of the blue berry is a hermi now. Same with the orange bud. I know that there are opinions, that breeding with fems is harmless, DP proved the opposite. Their regular versions of both strains are as hermi-free as before. One problem is, that it is harder to check for hermis when you feminize seeds, because you can´t differentiate a hermi from a forced-female-to-male. Another point is, that hermis react better to methods like STS: In big scale seedproductions hermis have a higher chance of giving away their pollen compared to the normal XX-males, which sometimes react much worser. In Europe it is frowned upon to breed with feminised seed. While there is no scientific proof that it is harmful, there is no scientific proof that it isn´t.
