She's sick & needs a doctor. Please help...

[ksoze2112]

Good Day to all. My first post. Can one of you good people take a look at these pics and possibly identify the problem. This is a Northern Lights Auto outdoors in FFOF and is showing a lot of these brown rust colored spots. In addition some damned little critter is munching on my leaves. Unknown what it is yet. Any help or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Please forgive my ignorance as this is my first grow. Help me save her...

 

[bad gas]

In the infirmary section, one of the stickies is the Joe Fresh Guide for Sick Plants. Print it out in color and keep it in your garden.

If these are outside, that short leaf might be mice damage. I also have a "mouse pheno".

Good luck. bg

 

[thefanfx]

or maybe its just hungry

or maybe its just hungry

it looks like Phosphorus Deficiency or Calcium Deficiency or Boron Deficiency or all of them

be sure the soil is good and fresh , use nutrition to feed them with all necessary organic elements and minerals

 

[gingerale]

Looks like calcium/magnesium lockout, or a deficiency. Can you give us more details on water source/regimen, soil type, nutrient usage and dosage, etc? My guess at this point is it's likely a simple deficiency, but can't say for sure until I hear what you've been feeding it.

 

[ksoze2112]

Thanks for the replies everyone. OK. Just yesterday I worked in a couple of tbl. of pulverized lime into the soil as I heard the ph of ocean forest can bounce and others have told me I should have worked in some lime into the soil before I even planted. My bad. Also my water has a ph of 6.7-6.8 range. I added a small amount of FF Big Bloom(1.5 tbl.) & FF Tiger Bloom (1tsp.) to 1 gal water. Solution ph then dropped to approx. 5. Adjusted ph of solution up to around 6.5-6.7 using Gen. Hydro. ph up and watered. I also just happen to have a TDS pen from my water cooler and tested the water from my tap and has a reading of .45 ppm. Hopefully the introduction of the lime and the nutes together will not cause any issues. Thanks for all the help and advice as I am still learning "on the job"

 

[SeaMaiden]

Classic Ca- (calcium deficiency). NOT Mg-, not 'mice damage'. Ca-.

You will not be able to reverse the damage, you will only be able to prevent progression.

 

[bad gas]

Thanks, SeaMaiden.

Your posts are awesome.

stay safe. bg

 

[ksoze2112]

Thank you SeaMaiden...

 

[bombadil.360]

if you correct the feeding issues, and keep on watering properly, since the plant is still vegging, the new growth should come forth without issues. if it does come out healthy, you will know you have done right.

good luck!

 

[Ground Up]

Classic Ca- (calcium deficiency). NOT Mg-, not 'mice damage'. Ca-.

You will not be able to reverse the damage, you will only be able to prevent progression.

For the win!!

 

[ksoze2112]

Thanks all. Will the lime that was introduced into the soil provide enough calcium or will the nutrients supply it? Or both.

 

[joe fresh]

Thanks all. Will the lime that was introduced into the soil provide enough calcium or will the nutrients supply it? Or both.

SEAMAIDEN nailed it...



depending the lime....dolo lime is good for ph adjusting and works immediately for ph adjusting but may take a few weeks t get the Ca/mg benifits from it....

hydrolized lime works fast(maybe too fast, lol), and you will see the bennifits immediatly...


if you used dolo lime(which you most likely did), i would suggest some foliar feeling with some calcium to get her goin faster.....just make sure foliar spray does not exceed 250-300ppm max(.5-.6 EC)

 

[SeaMaiden]

And joe's got ya on how to deal with the dolomite lime and stopping the Ca issues while it breaks down and becomes available to the plant.

 

[ksoze2112]

Just picked up something and would like your input on it. It was the only thing I could find on short notice. It's made by Bonide and it's called Rot-Stop and is made for tomatoes to stop blossom end rot and correct calcium deficiencies. It comes in a 32 oz. spray bottle and the rear label says Calcium...1.6% derived from calcium chloride. This stuff is just to fix a disorder caused by a calcium def. and is to be sprayed directly onto foliage as is. Question is what will it do to my lady? Any thoughts? Full strength as directed or dilute. P.S. Can't thank you guys/gals enough for the advice. I'm gonna save her.

 

[joe fresh]

Just picked up something and would like your input on it. It was the only thing I could find on short notice. It's made by Bonide and it's called Rot-Stop and is made for tomatoes to stop blossom end rot and correct calcium deficiencies. It comes in a 32 oz. spray bottle and the rear label says Calcium...1.6% derived from calcium chloride. This stuff is just to fix a disorder caused by a calcium def. and is to be sprayed directly onto foliage as is. Question is what will it do to my lady? Any thoughts? Full strength as directed or dilute. P.S. Can't thank you guys/gals enough for the advice. I'm gonna save her.

the only problem i got with that is it says chloride...sounds like bleach or chlorine...maybe someone who knows more about the product can help you, i never used it

 

[SeaMaiden]

I wouldn't worry about it being a chloride molecule hurting the plant. Necessary element.

 

[ksoze2112]

Now I have a new problem. Last night after sundown I sprayed a diluted solution of rot-stop for calcium deficiency on the leaves. This morning the leaves were not looking too good. Some seemed to be curling up and turning a black color. No nutes were given for about 5 days. Could it be that nutes were locked up in excess and now they kicked in or did this spray do this in about 12 hours. Any idea what new disease this is. As of now I ain't doin nothing to this plant but giving it water. On a side note temps are very high here 89-94 deg. F and this plant is getting at least 14 hrs. of light a day. Too hot? Very despondent.

 

[joe fresh]

Now I have a new problem. Last night after sundown I sprayed a diluted solution of rot-stop for calcium deficiency on the leaves. This morning the leaves were not looking too good. Some seemed to be curling up and turning a black color. No nutes were given for about 5 days. Could it be that nutes were locked up in excess and now they kicked in or did this spray do this in about 12 hours. Any idea what new disease this is. As of now I ain't doin nothing to this plant but giving it water. On a side note temps are very high here 89-94 deg. F and this plant is getting at least 14 hrs. of light a day. Too hot? Very despondent.

usually i get that effect from spraying anything that uses an oil as a base for lube/surfucant...(safers is one of them)...the oil sticks to the leaves and if not washed off properly then the leaves burn from heat and sun...

but you say you did it at night, did they recieve any sun since the spray? is their any oil in the spray? ive never used rot-stop so i dont know how it works


looks like heats stress and combo of spray on plants imo

 

[ksoze2112]

She just had sun today. This morning when I saw the leaves I put her in some shade and rinsed the leaves with water and let dry. Also just watered this morning. Unknown as to whether there are any oils. Oh well. Learn as I go along. Comments & advice always appreciated. Thanks.