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washing dirt off a soil plant for hydro use,good or Bad idea ?

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faintfuzzies

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I bet this is a bad idea but i have to ask it hopefully im in the right forum. Ok i have 7 plants in sunshine mix #4 advanced mix they are in 6 inch pots just got transplanted about 6 days ago. then today i got a package in mail and it was a 6- 4 gal pot RDWC system( made by stem hydroponics), apparently my mother bought this system as a gift for me for no reason at all. I had no idea that it was coming. what a saint. so now do i wash off these plants roots off to put in this system or should i scratch the idea and just wait it out,grow them out and just plain this hydro grow right ? It so hard not to start the process. also I was thinking about using Ionic nutes, I was told they are cheap ,and they do a great job supplying the plants nutrition....

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tell ur mom u need some new lights for that new system and keep doing what ur doing with the soil
 
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Cutting and cloning a new round for use in hydro should prove faster than trying to wash off soil. You should be able to get your clones to root in a week or two, then into your new system!

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I've done it a bunch of times. the plant will be shocked for a bit but you could help it out by adding in some super thrive or b52. good luck
 
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greenmatter

done it several times. "swish" the entire root ball around in a bucket of water until most of the dirt is gone and plant em in hydroton. you will probably need to stake the plant for a week or two cause it wont want to stand on its own until grabs hold of the grow rocks. do it right before light go out and dial the nutes back for a few days ....... i have not killed one yet
 
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I used to root in 16oz cups of soil and rinse the dirt off in the toilet when I put em into old style bubbling buckets (netcups of hydroton). As expected they got limp for a couple days, but took off very quickly into their new homes. Worked great, no failures.
 
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greenmatter said:
done it several times. "swish" the entire root ball around in a bucket of water until most of the dirt is gone and plant em in hydroton. you will probably need to stake the plant for a week or two cause it wont want to stand on its own until grabs hold of the grow rocks. do it right before light go out and dial the nutes back for a few days ....... i have not killed one yet
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Yep... that's good info there, should listen up.

Name's Hydro-Soil... been transplanting between hydro and soil, and back again, for 10 years. Done right, there's no slowdown at all, especially when going from soil to hydro.

It's not brain surgery but it does require being a bit careful. A few tips that can help....

- Use a bucket that's large enough to be able to dunk the entire root ball and put your hands/arms in around/alongside it. A bucket large enough for the entire plant is fine.

- Place the rootball in the bucket of clean water and let it sit for 20 minutes. The entire plant can sit underwater for that period of time so don't worry about some of it above the rootball is also soaking.

- Reach under the root ball and GENTLY tickle the dirt out of the roots. When the water is too thick with dirt to see through, change the water and keep working.

- Large plants are going to have a LOT of soil coming off into your hydro system.... if you can suspend them in a dwc of plain water and bubble them for a while.... a lot of the excess crap in the roots will come off. Smaller plants are fairly easy to get the roots clean.

Hope that helps :D

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 
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Good tips Hydro-Soil. I got frustrated real quick with the bucket or tub method though. The water gets so dirty so fast it's hard to rinse them very good. So I cleaned my toilet real good, then rinsed them off in there. Massaging the roots like you describe, flushing once or twice per plant. There would always be a few little bits left, but they were no problem in the passive bucket setup I had. Never lost one, it worked better and quicker than I thought it would.

Also, I added a bit of extra perlite so the soil would break up easier, I think it also helps rooting.
 
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well my plants are clones that are now rooted very well in veg state , they are not to big yet , maybe 4-5 inch tall and they are in 8 inch pots with sunshine mix #4advanced so i guess it should be easy as compared to regular soil being this stuff is soilless and more airy than soil. now my system is a 6 pot rdwc system . how strong or weak should my nute ppm be when i put tthese washed off rooted plants in right now im at like 300 ppm It is time to up it a bit though. some one said i should use thrive alive, is there any advanced products that i could use becau ei already have some advanced products here..
 
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Hydro-Soil said:
Yep... that's good info there, should listen up.

Name's Hydro-Soil... been transplanting between hydro and soil, and back again, for 10 years. Done right, there's no slowdown at all, especially when going from soil to hydro.

It's not brain surgery but it does require being a bit careful. A few tips that can help....

- Use a bucket that's large enough to be able to dunk the entire root ball and put your hands/arms in around/alongside it. A bucket large enough for the entire plant is fine.

- Place the rootball in the bucket of clean water and let it sit for 20 minutes. The entire plant can sit underwater for that period of time so don't worry about some of it above the rootball is also soaking.

- Reach under the root ball and GENTLY tickle the dirt out of the roots. When the water is too thick with dirt to see through, change the water and keep working.

- Large plants are going to have a LOT of soil coming off into your hydro system.... if you can suspend them in a dwc of plain water and bubble them for a while.... a lot of the excess crap in the roots will come off. Smaller plants are fairly easy to get the roots clean.

Hope that helps :D

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
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Its a huge help , any idea about ppm of nute right after , right now im at 300ppm in soiless i was to bring it up next feeding to about 400ppm
 
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mrwags said:
Your easiest path is to let them get extra dry and the root ball will break up and the soil comes off much easier
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Don't do this. You'll stress the plant going that dry and rip off way too many micro hairs. They can't release properly when they're dry and the time it takes to re-grow will stall the plant growth. Unless that's acceptable for your setup.

I wouldn't do it with hydroton either, same problems.

Wet is your healthiest choice for a stress free transplant.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 
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greenmatter

what happens ? i start most of my seeds in dirt so i do it at least 50% of the time, which over the years is a bunch of times. i have never even tried it with a really big plant, but i have had a 100% success rate with everything up to a gallon.

how did you do it?
 
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greenmatter said:
what happens ? i start most of my seeds in dirt so i do it at least 50% of the time, which over the years is a bunch of times. i have never even tried it with a really big plant, but i have had a 100% success rate with everything up to a gallon.

how did you do it?
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Dude I have no idea. All I was trying to state is what I have done for years to get this:




And I personally have found that after harvest if I pull the buckets full of hydroton and let them dry out they are easier to clean.

And that if you have cuts or seeds in soil if you let them dry a bit but NOT DIE it's easier to get the dirt off BUT I'm told thats wrong so I edited it and will stay to myself for I don't want to give info that's invalid for folks but yet works for me because I guess I'm one of Jerry's Kids.


Be Well
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mrwags said:
Dude I have no idea. All I was trying to state is what I have done for years to get this:




And I personally have found that after harvest if I pull the buckets full of hydroton and let them dry out they are easier to clean.

And that if you have cuts or seeds in soil if you let them dry a bit but NOT DIE it's easier to get the dirt off BUT I'm told thats wrong so I edited it and will stay to myself for I don't want to give info that's invalid for folks but yet works for me because I guess I'm one of Jerry's Kids.


Be Well
Mr.Wags
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miscommunication on my part Wags! i think ..........


i was asking Kitsym that question.
 
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