Hemp to ruin sensimilla?

[Toyot4]

Hemp has so many good uses that it seems preposterous that there would be any reason against growing it for industrial use. But check this out...

I see big issues with huge open pollinated fields of hemp, in my eyes this would create lands with pollen in the air ready to ruin the outdoor crops of the bud farmers.

-How far can pollen really travel?

-Do you big outdoor growers really see this as an issue?

 

[nomaad]

I didn't think about it till you brought it up. LOL. Seems like a valid concern.

 

[tonto]

would do more damage than any police force could dream off,

 

[Mountaineer]

Has hemp hurt any Canadian growers so far?

Proper precautions, location, strain selection, choice of growing indoor or outdoor
would become a part of the grower's strategy if this were to become a problem.

In a worse case scenario I would think auto-flowering strains could be the answer.

People already grow both seed crop and sense crop outdoors following only
a few simple precautions.

I'm not a big outdoor grower, but I can see your concerns.
I have heard that pollination can occur up to 5 miles but have never personally
seen this occur not even when it was growing wild in the ditches in the 60s, 70s, 80s.

We always yanked the males by the root in our personal grows and kept them in our
pollen grows yanking the fems. Reason being is we could start with simple wild hemp,
let the buds ripen up a little and pollinate late in the season for a stronger bud next year.
The more THC the bud contains when pollinated, the more THC the seed will contain,
so the better high next years bud will give you. Repeat for 40 years...
We didn't only paint signs and pottery with all of those brushes.

 

[Gert Lush]

Pollen can travel a lot further, given the right conditions.
Moroccan pollen clouds can cross the Med and even pollinate Spanish bud, I believe.

However it is still not that much of a problem. OK, so you might have a seed or two in your sensi. Live with it.
Or grow in a green house.
This is really not something to get anally retentive about.

Males you may not have pulled, or even the odd hermi will be FAR more noticeable.
In the big hash fields, farmers pull as many males as they can, but hey - guess what: they miss a whole lot, too. They don't cry about it, honest.
Nearby hemp is not a major concern.

 

[mostnonymouse]

Ask the midwest guys about how ditch weed affects their crops.

 

[festivus]

I asked the question a few year ago on a Canadian grow site if male hemp pollen could be used as a weapon against outdoor growers in areas like Vancouver Island, the Kootnays or the NorCal area of the US. Kinda got a negative, don't give them any ideas type of response. I don't think natural cross pollenation is a threat in Canada because the hemp growing provinces are so far away from those producing bud.

 

[Toyot4]

Ask the midwest guys about how ditch weed affects their crops.

how does ditch weed affect your crops?

 

[Toyot4]

We always yanked the males by the root in our personal grows and kept them in our
pollen grows yanking the fems. Reason being is we could start with simple wild hemp,
let the buds ripen up a little and pollinate late in the season for a stronger bud next year.
The more THC the bud contains when pollinated, the more THC the seed will contain,
so the better high next years bud will give you. Repeat for 40 years...
We didn't only paint signs and pottery with all of those brushes.

so this is the reason that thc percentage has been claimed to quadrupled since the 70's? These expierienced breeders are simply pollinating their bud late in the flowering cycle to produce stronger buds?

Do you have any sort of proof on this concept? i dont believe this for a second.

 

[two heads]

We had to give up a successful swamp site in southern Ontario after a large hemp farm was approved about 1 km away. We gave it one season but got seeded bud. We even grew it out - it smelled nice but was crap.

Still, I support hemp farms 100%. There's lots of good grow sites that aren't near hemp farms.

 

[localhero]

Man ive had the exact same thought as far as out of control males in large grows. ive heard that some indoor san diego grows got pollinated from winds carying pollen up from mexico.

another reason to use a hepa filter on your intakes lol.

so heres my doomsday scenario: too much pollen in the air makes some desperate farmers give up and grow males along with females for hash outdoors. like morocco. sinsemilla grows are limited to indoor with proper filtration.

americans start smoking hash and tobacco cigarettes.

warehouse rent in downtown la sky rockets lol.

 

[Mountaineer]

so this is the reason that thc percentage has been claimed to quadrupled since the 70's? These expierienced breeders are simply pollinating their bud late in the flowering cycle to produce stronger buds?

Do you have any sort of proof on this concept? i dont believe this for a second.

Not stronger bud, but seed that will produce stronger bud.

You, my friend, are free to believe what you want to believe.



I have absolutely no idea what commercial breeders are doing.
All I know is that someone got an idea to cross a sativa with an indica.




I need not prove what has been witnessed for decades.

Apologies to everyone for going off topic, but this needed addressed.

 

[Toyot4]

Not stronger bud, but seed that will produce stronger bud.

You, my friend, are free to believe what you want to believe.



I have absolutely no idea what commercial breeders are doing.
All I know is that someone got an idea to cross a sativa with an indica.




I need not prove what has been witnessed for decades.

Apologies to everyone for going off topic, but this needed addressed.

this is very much so on topic. im having a hard time grasping what you are saying though. Hemp is only garbage because it came from plants that were pollinated early in the flowering stage?

so having hemp pollinate your crop late in the cycle will produce non hemp like siblings?

What you are saying does not line up with pretty much everything else i have read on here in concern to breeding.

So the pollen doesnt matter where it came from? as long as you pollinate a female late in its flowering cycle?

i do know the smell of bullshit and this here sure smells close to it

 

[localhero]

hemp is bred for hemp qualities. ganja is bred for getting medicated.

 

[rocket high]

They have hemp farms in amsterdam ... wonder how they cope there with all the breeding programmes going on ?

 

[darwinsbulldog]

mmm i didn't think about that all either until you brought it up lol guess i'm "lucky" to live in a country like australia where hemp isn't grown much, if at all (not sure of the laws, probably as fucked as the US).

 

[Mountaineer]

this is very much so on topic. im having a hard time grasping what you are saying though. Hemp is only garbage because it came from plants that were pollinated early in the flowering stage?

so having hemp pollinate your crop late in the cycle will produce non hemp like siblings?

What you are saying does not line up with pretty much everything else i have read on here in concern to breeding.

So the pollen doesnt matter where it came from? as long as you pollinate a female late in its flowering cycle?

i do know the smell of bullshit and this here sure smells close to it

I think you are missing only what was left out of my original post,
so I will try and simplify it.

Hemp is only garbage because it came from plants that were pollinated early in the flowering stage?

In the beginning, yes.
By todays standards, no.

so having hemp pollinate your crop late in the cycle will produce non hemp like siblings?

It will likely degenerate the potency of the siblings.

So the pollen doesnt matter where it came from? as long as you pollinate a female late in its flowering cycle?

Only in the first run starting with hemp and hemp alone.

I didn't advocate the reverse-engineering of the strains.

The only way to get a gen3 level is to start with gen1
and cross late in the season with another gen1 or better.
The result will be generation 2
gen2 crossed late with gen1 will not be as potent as
a cross of gen2 with another gen2 or better.
Generation 3, will contain more THC, not much more,
but enough that a smoker who has only tried gen1 hemp
will know the difference.

Now without going through the generations you should be
able to grasp the concept.

Now if you cross the gen3 back to the gen1 (hemp), of
course you are going to lose potency.

Generation 40 crossed with hemp isn't likely to produce a
common hemp seed, but still potency will be lost.

Do you understand the concept now?

The longer the bud goes without becoming pollinated, the
more potent the bud will be.

Sinsemilla, of course means not pollinated, or without seed.


Now having this out of the way...

The whole point of the story is that there are simple ways
to avoid pollination, and if all cannabis is legalized, keeping
your bud from becoming pollinated will be just as easy as
what most gorilla growers are doing to protect their plants.

It was done for 40 years, through 40 potencies, each generation
being a little more potent than the previous generation.
I was there and I know what we started with.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

lol me thinks you should run through the guys field with a fist full of pollen sacks from your plants and fertilize his hemp lol maybe it'll lead to potent progeny in the hemp farm and you can harvest it yourself next season haha

 

[planty]

they don't know about me.. Ill go in to a warehouse with panda filmed walls 1k HPS per 10x10 fire the gennys up and put a solexx roof on it over my out door patch with hepafilters and cool sealed ACs.

 

[santasapimp]

id love to find out how to start my own hemp company in a country like canada.. sooo beautiful there

i dont even care what i had to turn the hemp into. shampoo. shoes. cat bed. popsicle sticks


any 1 know what subforum i could ask questions about this industry in?