Chevy's blumatized organic soil LED mini grow
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All four of the Seychellos have sprouted and also at least one california indica seems to be on its way
Had to leave for a week, but they managed alright.
The humidifier is still 1/4 full and we're starting to move a bit
The tall one in the back is the Oaxacan XA5 Haze.
I'm putting this one under 12/12 later today as well as the Seychellos.
All 4 have sprouted and I'm transplanting them together as they will go into one 25l pot together.
Remember these are regs so once they've shown sex I'll likely cull the males and whatever females remain will be flowered out in the same pot.
This is the controller display.
So far it's wokring nicely!
More soon!
The humidifier is still 1/4 full and we're starting to move a bit
The tall one in the back is the Oaxacan XA5 Haze.
I'm putting this one under 12/12 later today as well as the Seychellos.
All 4 have sprouted and I'm transplanting them together as they will go into one 25l pot together.
Remember these are regs so once they've shown sex I'll likely cull the males and whatever females remain will be flowered out in the same pot.
This is the controller display.
So far it's wokring nicely!
More soon!
Update!
The Afghan Lemons in the veg compartment got a bit too much light because I elevated them too much and too close to the light. The Cali indica does not seem to mind too much...
In the flower compartment it's day 3 of 12/12 today
Still not up-potted, just too lazy.
They way I've set everything up makes it really easy to switch plants from one compartment to the other.
Just unplug the blumat dripline and plug it into the other compartment.
The Oaxacan X A5 Haze looks a bit hungry, there's really not a lot in the lightmix.
I've top dressed some of Dr Forest's veg mix dry fertiliser but not sure how quickly it'll be available.
I'm about to top it and use the cutting as a clone for backup.
Was surprised how lemony it already smells!
See you soon
CC
The Afghan Lemons in the veg compartment got a bit too much light because I elevated them too much and too close to the light. The Cali indica does not seem to mind too much...
In the flower compartment it's day 3 of 12/12 today
Still not up-potted, just too lazy.
They way I've set everything up makes it really easy to switch plants from one compartment to the other.
Just unplug the blumat dripline and plug it into the other compartment.
The Oaxacan X A5 Haze looks a bit hungry, there's really not a lot in the lightmix.
I've top dressed some of Dr Forest's veg mix dry fertiliser but not sure how quickly it'll be available.
I'm about to top it and use the cutting as a clone for backup.
Was surprised how lemony it already smells!
See you soon
CC
Howdy, 
Wow, pretty warm in your veg room, almost 25 degrees! Do you have extra heating(it's also pretty dry)?
For me up-potting(^^) is really fun, after a few days the plants are exploding, i like that very much.
Wow, pretty warm in your veg room, almost 25 degrees! Do you have extra heating(it's also pretty dry)?
For me up-potting(^^) is really fun, after a few days the plants are exploding, i like that very much.
Yes I'm not getting around the up potting part I reckon...
No extra heating, although I have a heat mat in there (it's off/ only use it when they're really small)
25C is nice for the little ones... humidity is normally around 65%-70% but I've opened the flap to take a picture that's why it dropped immediately...
The hose of the humidifer is now exhausting into the flower compartment and from there the air is then pulled into the veg comp.
I'm still pondering over what to mix into my soil for the flowering gals...
plan was to use lightmix amended with Dr Forest's bloom mix, which is quite well rounded and as I said I really like their products and how much care goes into making them on their end.
But when I was at the store they had a (new?) medium called "Sonnenerde" which was priced at a hefty 20CHF for 20l, I got a bag anyways because the guy told me it had predatory mites in it.
Now for my 25l pots I'm thinking of mixing like 5l of that stuff to 15l of light mix and 5l of perlite plus Dr Forest bloom mix.
Thoughts anyone?
I posted it earlier but here's the stuff again
No extra heating, although I have a heat mat in there (it's off/ only use it when they're really small)
25C is nice for the little ones... humidity is normally around 65%-70% but I've opened the flap to take a picture that's why it dropped immediately...
The hose of the humidifer is now exhausting into the flower compartment and from there the air is then pulled into the veg comp.
I'm still pondering over what to mix into my soil for the flowering gals...
plan was to use lightmix amended with Dr Forest's bloom mix, which is quite well rounded and as I said I really like their products and how much care goes into making them on their end.
But when I was at the store they had a (new?) medium called "Sonnenerde" which was priced at a hefty 20CHF for 20l, I got a bag anyways because the guy told me it had predatory mites in it.
Now for my 25l pots I'm thinking of mixing like 5l of that stuff to 15l of light mix and 5l of perlite plus Dr Forest bloom mix.
Thoughts anyone?
I posted it earlier but here's the stuff again
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Note to myself if you're using a humidifier and you have hard water with a lot of calcium, check your filter, the prefilter is probably already clogged up.
My prefilter was so clogged up with the stuff there was barely any airflow anymore.
Took it off and the temp in the tent dropped 2 full degrees in a matter of minutes. I bought a cheap ro system a while ago that connects directly to the tap and I'll be using ro water for the humidifier from now on
Oh boy the things you have to figure out,,,
My prefilter was so clogged up with the stuff there was barely any airflow anymore.
Took it off and the temp in the tent dropped 2 full degrees in a matter of minutes. I bought a cheap ro system a while ago that connects directly to the tap and I'll be using ro water for the humidifier from now on
Oh boy the things you have to figure out,,,
Hi Hasch,
I‘ve dropped it in the main compartment to 60% and slightly above that in the veg compartment. Main reason is VPD, i‘m keeping it between 0,8 and 1kpa while they’re still relatively small and will raise it over the weeks.
I cannot change my temps very much but i can change humidity!
CC
I‘ve dropped it in the main compartment to 60% and slightly above that in the veg compartment. Main reason is VPD, i‘m keeping it between 0,8 and 1kpa while they’re still relatively small and will raise it over the weeks.
I cannot change my temps very much but i can change humidity!
CC
Hello a todos (practising my spanish for the cup hahaha)
Quick update
My laziness which resulted in plants not getting up potted wasn't taken lightly by some of the plants but they're doing much better now.
I topped the Oaxaca X A5 Haze, taking off the top third of the plant as a cutting for back up. She's still under shock from being topped and up potted into relatively hot soil.
Both the Oaxaca x A5 Haze and the Seychellos are now on day 10 of flower.
I'll have to find another solution for catching the condensate from the humidifier hose. The system is working really well, let's see how long the machine will last with the many on/off cycles each day.
My VPD is now kept around 1kpa and it's surprisingly stable thanks to the humidifer
Here's the veg compartment, the plants are looking good now but you can still see some of the lower leaves on the bigger Afghan Lemon in the back showing that they had a few rough days.
A mix of underfeeding and being rootbound is never a good thing!
And last but not least here's the cutting formerly known as the top third of the Oaxaca XA5 Haze
Some of you may know my super simple cloning process is almost idiot proof and relies mostly on high humidity to keep up turgor inside the cutting. The tupper box is cleaned with iso alcohol and then I normally don't even open the box for the first few days. If humidity is kept high it will no wilt. Also no cutting leaves which the cutting, once a plant, will only have to regrow. Also no scalpels, razorblades etc, I just snip it off with my pruning scissors, put it in a glass of water and then into a root riot plug and voila.
Not exactly the most widely accepted method I reckon but I haven't lost a clone in a long time.
More soon
Quick update
My laziness which resulted in plants not getting up potted wasn't taken lightly by some of the plants but they're doing much better now.
I topped the Oaxaca X A5 Haze, taking off the top third of the plant as a cutting for back up. She's still under shock from being topped and up potted into relatively hot soil.
Both the Oaxaca x A5 Haze and the Seychellos are now on day 10 of flower.
I'll have to find another solution for catching the condensate from the humidifier hose. The system is working really well, let's see how long the machine will last with the many on/off cycles each day.
My VPD is now kept around 1kpa and it's surprisingly stable thanks to the humidifer
Here's the veg compartment, the plants are looking good now but you can still see some of the lower leaves on the bigger Afghan Lemon in the back showing that they had a few rough days.
A mix of underfeeding and being rootbound is never a good thing!
And last but not least here's the cutting formerly known as the top third of the Oaxaca XA5 Haze
Some of you may know my super simple cloning process is almost idiot proof and relies mostly on high humidity to keep up turgor inside the cutting. The tupper box is cleaned with iso alcohol and then I normally don't even open the box for the first few days. If humidity is kept high it will no wilt. Also no cutting leaves which the cutting, once a plant, will only have to regrow. Also no scalpels, razorblades etc, I just snip it off with my pruning scissors, put it in a glass of water and then into a root riot plug and voila.
Not exactly the most widely accepted method I reckon but I haven't lost a clone in a long time.
More soon
Update!
There's been a bit of progress and I can't emphasise VPD enough to whoever is listening. Especially in dry climates like it is here in the wintertime (rh is around 30% in my apartment). Such a game changer to be able to influence rh effectively with a fogger and a controller. Been a while since I had praying leaves and probably just because I timed it right so the ambient rh fit better.
Here's the flower compartment at day 17 from flip
Oaxaca X A5 Haze in the front, the 4 Seychellos in the back.
I was going to use all fabric pots but then I realised that that's not so smart as my intakes and openings on to the veg compartment are quite low and the containers will be next to them or even pushing slightly against them...
So I used regular pots for the rest of the plants as I saw a problem in regards to drying out with the fabric pots if they're continuously exposed to a rather focused stream of air.
Here's the Oaxacan X A5 up close
And here are the Seychellos
I'm not too worried about the Oaxacan X A5 in terms of stretch but I have no idea whatsoever what these Seychellos will do. Given that I collected them just 500km south of the equator these as well as all their ancestors will never have seen anything but 12/12... if they'll take 12 weeks or 20 is pure speculation.
Well, only one way to find out!
Here's the little cutting of the Oaxaca X A5 and it's been in the container dor about 10 days now. No wilting, turgor still fine thanks to high rh. Normally I see roots in about 14 days, so hopefully not much longer until I can plant this little one.
And lastly the veg compartment
The California Indica has overtaken the two Afghan Lemons and the AL on the right is stil way smaller than her sister. Remember how long it took to sprout and grow its first set of leaves? I will not cull it as sometimes the runts are great smoke and I have time ;-)
It's the shortest, squattest plant I have ever grown...
Haven't re-installed the blumats yet as I wanted to let the pots dry out a bit to see how much moisture the plants like best. The ALs definitely prefer their soil dryer than the other plants and it was a bit soggy in the beginning which could be the reason why the CI appeared to overtake them both.
Good night
There's been a bit of progress and I can't emphasise VPD enough to whoever is listening. Especially in dry climates like it is here in the wintertime (rh is around 30% in my apartment). Such a game changer to be able to influence rh effectively with a fogger and a controller. Been a while since I had praying leaves and probably just because I timed it right so the ambient rh fit better.
Here's the flower compartment at day 17 from flip
Oaxaca X A5 Haze in the front, the 4 Seychellos in the back.
I was going to use all fabric pots but then I realised that that's not so smart as my intakes and openings on to the veg compartment are quite low and the containers will be next to them or even pushing slightly against them...
So I used regular pots for the rest of the plants as I saw a problem in regards to drying out with the fabric pots if they're continuously exposed to a rather focused stream of air.
Here's the Oaxacan X A5 up close
And here are the Seychellos
I'm not too worried about the Oaxacan X A5 in terms of stretch but I have no idea whatsoever what these Seychellos will do. Given that I collected them just 500km south of the equator these as well as all their ancestors will never have seen anything but 12/12... if they'll take 12 weeks or 20 is pure speculation.
Well, only one way to find out!
Here's the little cutting of the Oaxaca X A5 and it's been in the container dor about 10 days now. No wilting, turgor still fine thanks to high rh. Normally I see roots in about 14 days, so hopefully not much longer until I can plant this little one.
And lastly the veg compartment
The California Indica has overtaken the two Afghan Lemons and the AL on the right is stil way smaller than her sister. Remember how long it took to sprout and grow its first set of leaves? I will not cull it as sometimes the runts are great smoke and I have time ;-)
It's the shortest, squattest plant I have ever grown...
Haven't re-installed the blumats yet as I wanted to let the pots dry out a bit to see how much moisture the plants like best. The ALs definitely prefer their soil dryer than the other plants and it was a bit soggy in the beginning which could be the reason why the CI appeared to overtake them both.
Good night
healthy and thriving 
Day 12 for the cutting, no roots yet but starting to go downhill a bit now. Hope to see some roots shortly
22 days of 12/12 in the bloom compartment
Stretch is now in full swing, let's hope things don't get out of hand
I culled a male Seychello (the one on the right in the back) which had already sexed, the others look like ladies.
They're a bit wobbly, the stems are not very sturdy despite the plants looking fine overall.
veg compartment is getting a bit overgrown by now, taking cuttings of all three tomorrow and then a few more days to recover before I flip them
22 days of 12/12 in the bloom compartment
Stretch is now in full swing, let's hope things don't get out of hand
I culled a male Seychello (the one on the right in the back) which had already sexed, the others look like ladies.
They're a bit wobbly, the stems are not very sturdy despite the plants looking fine overall.
veg compartment is getting a bit overgrown by now, taking cuttings of all three tomorrow and then a few more days to recover before I flip them
Update Amigos
The little Oaxacan X A5 cutting has made it after just over two weeks and the first tiny root is peeking out.
That means I have a backup if the plant turns out to be spectacular
In the meantime I've taken a cutting from the California Indica and flipped the plant a few days ago
You know my style, everything's a bit smaller except the smoke hahaha
Here are the two Afghan Lemons vegging away and shortly I'll take cuts from these two and flip them.
Only problem: I was lucky and they all made it so now I'm running out of space to flower.
The wicked plan is to to turn the veg chamber into a flower chamber by lightproofing it against the mum space on top. Done it before, just have to make sure the air gets exchanged often enough
And lastly here are the flowering ladies:
Top dressed with some Dr Forest bloom powder but I really wonder about the Seychellos, they're far behind the others and no idea if that means just that or that they will continue to grow for the next 4 months or so...
It's probably not tropical enough for them but they're healthy so we'll see
And also a closeup of the OAxacan X A5
So far everything's looking good and just measured the DLI last night which sits at 45 at the top of the plants. The light is at 80% currently and I can still raise it a bit if needed to keep the distance to the tops.
I'll put the blumat maxis in soonish but I'm enjoying the handwatering too much rn and I want to get a better feeling to what they like or not.
Auf Wiedersehen
CC
The little Oaxacan X A5 cutting has made it after just over two weeks and the first tiny root is peeking out.
That means I have a backup if the plant turns out to be spectacular
In the meantime I've taken a cutting from the California Indica and flipped the plant a few days ago
You know my style, everything's a bit smaller except the smoke hahaha
Here are the two Afghan Lemons vegging away and shortly I'll take cuts from these two and flip them.
Only problem: I was lucky and they all made it so now I'm running out of space to flower.
The wicked plan is to to turn the veg chamber into a flower chamber by lightproofing it against the mum space on top. Done it before, just have to make sure the air gets exchanged often enough
And lastly here are the flowering ladies:
Top dressed with some Dr Forest bloom powder but I really wonder about the Seychellos, they're far behind the others and no idea if that means just that or that they will continue to grow for the next 4 months or so...
It's probably not tropical enough for them but they're healthy so we'll see
And also a closeup of the OAxacan X A5
So far everything's looking good and just measured the DLI last night which sits at 45 at the top of the plants. The light is at 80% currently and I can still raise it a bit if needed to keep the distance to the tops.
I'll put the blumat maxis in soonish but I'm enjoying the handwatering too much rn and I want to get a better feeling to what they like or not.
Auf Wiedersehen
CC
Sounds like the logical next step to solve your problem. Good luck with the airflow!
And wicked plans are always exciting imo
I converted it last night after a chat with zivi420. It works, air is moving from the bottom compartment to the mum compartment on top but there is still a tiny bit of light coming through. Not enough for any kind of photosynthesis but not completely dark either so i hope they don’t mind.
Flower update 30 days
Here are the flowering ladies, the Oaxacan XA5 and the Seychellos and the California Indica at day 7.
Oaxacan front right, Cali indica fron left and Seychellos back left.
Oaxaca X A5
The tallest of the Seychellos
I have a DLI of 45 at the top of the plants, light is at 8/10.
I'll spare you the vegging plants this time ;-)
About to top the Afghan Lemons in the veg comp. root the cuttings and flip them in my newly lightproofed second flower compartment.
Take care
CC
Here are the flowering ladies, the Oaxacan XA5 and the Seychellos and the California Indica at day 7.
Oaxacan front right, Cali indica fron left and Seychellos back left.
Oaxaca X A5
The tallest of the Seychellos
I have a DLI of 45 at the top of the plants, light is at 8/10.
I'll spare you the vegging plants this time ;-)
About to top the Afghan Lemons in the veg comp. root the cuttings and flip them in my newly lightproofed second flower compartment.
Take care
CC
Update Day 36 of flower for the sats
Was gone for a couple days and this is what i feared, the sats keep stretching in wk6 of flower.
It's getting crammed in the little 60cmX60cm / 2'x2'
All looking healthy despite one problem:
The fucking gnats are back. Hope it's just fungus gnats and not a revival of the dreaded root aphids.
I had bought a sack of "Sonnenerde" organic soil which upon opening (sacks are closed, no holes) released a nice little swarm of fliers. Really sucks big time... with new soil, I just hope that they're FGs and I can get rid of them quickly.
The little OaxacanX A5 Haze cut is thriving and the CAlifornia Indica cutting has not rooted yet in the top box.
At the bottom the two Afghan Lemons are now slightly overvegged for my setup therefor I'm taking cuts as I've already mentioned and then flip to flower in the little bottom box
Was gone for a couple days and this is what i feared, the sats keep stretching in wk6 of flower.
It's getting crammed in the little 60cmX60cm / 2'x2'
All looking healthy despite one problem:
The fucking gnats are back. Hope it's just fungus gnats and not a revival of the dreaded root aphids.
I had bought a sack of "Sonnenerde" organic soil which upon opening (sacks are closed, no holes) released a nice little swarm of fliers. Really sucks big time... with new soil, I just hope that they're FGs and I can get rid of them quickly.
The little OaxacanX A5 Haze cut is thriving and the CAlifornia Indica cutting has not rooted yet in the top box.
At the bottom the two Afghan Lemons are now slightly overvegged for my setup therefor I'm taking cuts as I've already mentioned and then flip to flower in the little bottom box
I had to make a little room by culling one of the Seychellos as she turned out to be a man.
Sheila was a man!
Took her just two days to turn from pistils to pollensacks, gladly none had openend, still amazed at how quickly that went. I took a picture but only afterwards realised no card in the slot oh man.
I'm not too sad about it as the space was getting too crammed.
On another note, I heard form a serious cali head grower that undercanopy lighting is changing the game and since I already had these caluma 3500k 18w bars I finally put them in
Sheila was a man!
Took her just two days to turn from pistils to pollensacks, gladly none had openend, still amazed at how quickly that went. I took a picture but only afterwards realised no card in the slot oh man.
I'm not too sad about it as the space was getting too crammed.
On another note, I heard form a serious cali head grower
that undercanopy lighting is changing the game and since I already had these caluma 3500k 18w bars I finally put them in
DaEarl73
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Fette unterbodenbeleuchtung Chevy! Need for speed underground mode on!I had to make a little room by culling one of the Seychellos as she turned out to be a man.
Sheila was a man!
Took her just two days to turn from pistils to pollensacks, gladly none had openend, still amazed at how quickly that went. I took a picture but only afterwards realised no card in the slot oh man.
I'm not too sad about it as the space was getting too crammed.
On another note, I heard form a serious cali head grower
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