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Outdoor workhorse strains > 53 lat
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Nobody is mentioning Freezeland unfortunately, but that does very well at 52N, also coastal area with lately a lot of fog,but hadnt any troubles with molds.
Bluehemp Nepali is another one which is even earlier in flowering than Freezeland.
The most potent outside, but is late early November without any mold problem too, is Lemon Thai.
Bluehemp Nepali is another one which is even earlier in flowering than Freezeland.
The most potent outside, but is late early November without any mold problem too, is Lemon Thai.
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FTL
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Sotry mate, did the lemon Thai finish late October/ early November?
Old Piney
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I'm liking how that Baglung Nepali looks. Being one parent of purple satellite I imagine it's quit early. I was told by Vermontman that the early pheno I had of PS was maturing about the same time as the Baglung he used in the hybrid. It finished in mid September for me at 40N, Vman l beleave is at around 42N. The early one is the purple one I had pictured, I can see a resemblance. May I ask when that Nepali finished for you and also where did you get the lemon Thai from?
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Bluehemp Nepali did finish somewhere in October (52N), but that had to do with the seed ripeness. The males started to flower in July.
Lemon Thai seeds i got from a grower from Overgrow, i met him at Opengrow.
FTL
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My main take away from what @mexcurandero420 has just posted is about the mould and cold resistance of the lemon Thai. Criteria #1 for me.
Was it run from a clone or seed mex?
Was it run from a clone or seed mex?
The Mextiza x UEL is one of the most mould resistant I've tried, lovely long sativa flowers, not fluffy by any means. Mid Oct. Potent high, range between introspective and giggly social. Terps are awesome, I'll route out a dried photo soon.
Maroc Marko
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Yeah, these are also in my hotlist for guerilla growing in Germany. I got the 10 Purple Satellite reg.'s for 37 euro at oaseeds; special offer last summer. Mountain Gold I'll get for next year, probably from Linda.But as this Purple Sattelite strain continually keeps popping up in these conversations, I might give it a try sometime anyhow. Also will have a look into that Mountain Gold.
Of course the danish Thyphoon seems to be a really tough, camouflage and nice strain for outdoors/guerilla in the north. I'll need to try that one also.
Otherwise Durban/ Durban Poison usually works, and offers good yields. Harvesting time usually is in mid october. I tried it several times, and was satisfied. Latitude 51 or 52 here.
By the way, people keep recommending autoflowering plants in general for outdoor growing in central/northern Europe- but without actual knowledge about it, as it seems. If the photo strain hates rain and cold, crossing it with a ruderalis doesn't necessarily change too much about it. Ruderalis hemp is more of a wild weed than a traditionally grown plant and therefore quite resistant to weather, especially some cold wind I guess, but it's not a wonder remedy for sensitive pure indoor genetics. It comes from areas with little rain, like the steppes of southern Siberia...
It is necessary to carefully sort out the auto strains that can take our climate (sometimes there's cold and rain in the middle of summer), just as we do when we buy photo seeds. I had most auto strains last year develop some mold during flowering, no matter if july or september.
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FilthyDank'Wasteman'Fabul
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Yeah, most autoflowers i have tried outdoor were bred in spain or indoors and turn to liquid like a snowman being urinated on by the devil, even if the rain was warm, light, pleasant. Mystical and paradisical almost. The "18 hour flower" is my our best hope it would seem
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summergrower
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Do you happen to know where the grower originally got the Lemon Thai seeds from, or would you be able to ask him? I'd be very interested in this strain. Besides being potent what were the effects like? Also were they regs or fems? If they finished at 52 N then they would probably finish for me at 42 N.
I ran Sensi Seeds Durban outside last year and harvested late October. Didn't have much mold despite not doing any spraying, although it was a very dry fall. Very giggly effects and was my favorite among all the strains I grew.
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Old Piney
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Yeah man I‘m interested in that Thai too . Like you I’m not at 50+N only at 40N but I hang around this thread because earlier is always better especially for breading . I had a Durban from 1986 sssc called South African Dp34 and man it packed a punch and was really sticky shit . Not only That but it matured as early as the second week in September for me . I reproduced it back in the day a few generations and then had some seeds frozen till 2014 . I grew them out made seed twice since . Sadly some how I F it up ,it’s early but just not that good . I have a lot of seeds produced and I suppose I should keep hunting . I’ve been looking at Durban available now but I don’t believe any are that early
I had an early Durban from the Heksenketel which was an old early Durban and was ready around half September 52N. Seeds were sent by a friend.
Seeds from Lemon Thai were from Dutch Flowers and although it had bld leaves, the effect was very cerebral & energetic. Good variety to cross with a good Durban or Original Haze to bring down the flowering period without lowering the cerebral high of Haze.
Seeds from Lemon Thai were from Dutch Flowers and although it had bld leaves, the effect was very cerebral & energetic. Good variety to cross with a good Durban or Original Haze to bring down the flowering period without lowering the cerebral high of Haze.
Orange's Greenhouse
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German summer is usually warm and rather dry. If it finishes in the middle of summer then resistance to cold and dew is irrelevant. Using last summer, which was quite wet by german standards, as a baseline is not the best choice. Almost anything rotted there. If you were lucky the critical late stages of flowering happened during the few weeks that were dry.
I harvested autos in september with lots of mold and a second batch a month later that had barely any.
Asentrouw
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I tried Durban Poison from DP and a cheap Dutch seedbank. Great strain, but very sensitive for mold the last weeks when the buds fatten up in my experience.
I crossed the latter with Ierdbei once which added a great mango scent, but the problem remained.
Maybe its a matter of finding the right pheno.
Got some MJ seeds "Durban Passion" (Durban x Passion #1) I want to give a try this season.
Thyphoon I still need to purchase some time. Sounds interesting to say the least. I'm also still looking to obtain Leb47 and Oldfarmer Nepal, but these strains are quite difficult to find nowadays.
I agree on the auto's, many of them simply rot away here. Some perform quite well though.
Super-auto's are also an interesting sub-category if you are into longer flowering sativa's - still very late, but some can be finished up North without light deprivation.
I thinks the most important use of ruderalis is the ability to substantially advance the flowering times in hardy strains. It seems many succesfull Northern strains contain some of these genetics one way or another.
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FilthyDank'Wasteman'Fabul
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Sweet terpenes dont repel mould. Plants with lemon, pine, camphor, citronella scents, the terpenes like that are more likely anti mould and insect repellant, sweet terpenes and plants with them get eaten up
And anything that turns purple is cold resistant, the anthocyanins and sugars that is concentrated in purple plants acts like an anti-freeze for the plant cells
summergrower
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I checked online and I'm not finding anywhere that has the Dutch Flowers Lemon Thai nor any of the other Dutch Flowers strains, so maybe they're no longer operating? Does anyone know which company has the legit version of this strain?
