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Maritime/Admiralty Law versus Common Law

Frosty Nuggets

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Absolem

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Frosty Nuggets said:
There is a big difference between legal and Lawful, legal is Maritime/Admiralty law which applies only on the open ocean, Lawful means Common Law which is the law of the land.

Dead In The Water - Maritime Admiralty UCC
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RV3HxCUh9gj8/

Maritime Admiralty Law & the Etymology of Words
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Sy0k6fATpeU/

Humans Controlled By Admiralty Maritime Law
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bBGWt9eq8sIq/
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Nothing in your statement is true. More brain rot from Bitchute. You really need to start checking your sources.

https://law.jrank.org/pages/8110/La...rms lawful and legal,or in a technical manner.

"The terms lawful and legal differ in that the former contemplates the substance of law, whereas the latter alludes to the form of law. A lawful act is authorized, sanctioned, or not forbidden by law. A legal act is performed in accordance with the forms and usages of law, or in a technical manner."

https://www.lawyerment.com/library/...ence-between-maritime-and-common-law-6768.htm

"Maritime law, also known as admiralty law, is the branch of law that controls navigation and trade on any navigational waters, including the high seas. According to the United States Constitution, federal courts have the authority to exercise admiralty jurisdiction, which covers cases in which claims arise from an accident on any navigable waters of the United States, including those that relate to maritime commerce."
 
h.h.

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Absolem said:
Nothing in your statement is true. More brain rot from Bitchute. You really need to start checking your sources.

https://law.jrank.org/pages/8110/La...rms lawful and legal,or in a technical manner.

"The terms lawful and legal differ in that the former contemplates the substance of law, whereas the latter alludes to the form of law. A lawful act is authorized, sanctioned, or not forbidden by law. A legal act is performed in accordance with the forms and usages of law, or in a technical manner."

https://www.lawyerment.com/library/...ence-between-maritime-and-common-law-6768.htm

"Maritime law, also known as admiralty law, is the branch of law that controls navigation and trade on any navigational waters, including the high seas. According to the United States Constitution, federal courts have the authority to exercise admiralty jurisdiction, which covers cases in which claims arise from an accident on any navigable waters of the United States, including those that relate to maritime commerce."
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Sources or source?
 
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Switcher56 said:
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Admiral Nuggets is contemplating becoming a pirate perhaps?

GARRRR.

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armedoldhippy

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buzzmobile said:
Now do Sovereign Citizen.
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i love watching the so-called "sovereign citizens" on youtube as they get hauled off to jail when they find out just how far the joke has gone wrong for them, lol. "i'm not driving, officer, i'm traveling..." then they get into court & say something incredibly intelligent like "i do not recognize any authority you claim to have over me" when the judge tells them something. and the next thing they hear is a jail cell door clanging shut behind them...🤣
 
buzzmobile

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Switcher56 said:
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Yes, I'll say it: Sovereign citizens are cuckoo for cocoa puffs. They believe the U.S. government became a corporation and lost jurisdiction over its citizens in 1933 when the gold standard was dropped. As a result, every U.S. citizen is now his or her own "sovereign". A sovereign citizen has to make a contract with that corporation - one governed by admiralty or maritime law - to grant the government any jurisdiction over their person. And since a sovereign citizen has made no such contract, no court orders apply to them.

It's all so ridiculous. But what's worse, some sovereign citizens have violently resisted the jurisdiction of law enforcement officials enforcing court judgments, serving arrest warrants, and making traffic stops. The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed the sovereign citizen movement as one of the most violent extremist groups in the country. While the Department of Homeland Security reports that most sovereign citizens are peaceful, they've also decided there's more than enough reason to keep an eye on them.

Sovereign citizens are a problem for pro se litigants because no lawyer will risk his or her reputation (or worse, a disciplinary proceeding) by representing them, and here's why: The basis for all property rights in the United States is a land dispute case, Johnson & Graham's Lessee v. McIntosh, 21 U.S. 543 (1823). Johnson had bought land from a native tribe and McIntosh later bought the same land from the U.S. Congress. The Supreme Court ruled that no U.S. court could recognize the power of Indian tribes to sell land because it all belonged to the United States by dint of European conquest. And so regardless of the facts or the natural law, the court was required to quiet title to the property in favor of the party who'd bought it from the United States.

By the same token, no court of the United States can hear an argument that a U.S. citizen is sovereign -- that a contract with the government is required to grant jurisdiction -- even if that position had any basis in natural law. So sovereign citizens may as well quit with the nonsense.
That's not going to happen soon. These are folks who print their own passports and stamp their own license plates, for goodness sake. Beyond that silliness, sovereign citizens in court make all pro se litigants look silly. They've been guilty of everything from filing fraudulent tax returns to filing false liens against judges and prosecutors. They've ignored court orders to stop filing repetitive motions on the same issues using the same bad arguments. They've based legal positions on ancient cases that had been overturned by constitutional amendment and hadn't been precedent for centuries.
I suspect many of these poor souls insist on asserting their sovereignty in court as a matter of principle, despite the lack of legal merit. But since they claim the courts lack jurisdiction, I wish they'd take their principles a bit further and just stay out of the courthouse completely. When they have to appear, they ought to at least bring some recognized law.

https://courtroom5.com/blog_content/sovereign-citizens-make-pro-se-litigants-look-silly/
 
armedoldhippy

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Frosty Nuggets said:
Typical Yank, you only care about the US of Aholes unless of course the other country has oil in which case you invade them and steal the oil.
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tell you what, d-head. name a country we have invaded, occupied, and are now "stealing" the oil from. ONE will be enough...i'll wait...utter fucking bullshit.
 
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