HISTORY OF THE ORIGINAL HAZE

[happyhi]

greetings to all,

a while back i mentioned that i was one of the original haze growers back in
the 70's. and i promised the community that if i could hook up with the man
that created the name and strain who i've known for decades i would report back. I'm back!
The story is funny but i must begin by saying everything that Sam the Skunkman has ever reported about it is accurate. He may have left out
some fun details that i will share. The following comments are not conjecture, second hand rumor, they are the facts, from the mouth of the
guy who did it. Not is helper partner, sister brother or dog.

Haze - the name? Hendrix "purple haze is on my brain" thats where Haze
comes from.
Original - it was original so it fit.
Strain - an accident. Back then we all felt that Colombian Gold aka as Punto Roja was the best smoke. The haze comes from a Punta Roja seed
and was bred to itself for about 10 years after which the strain went
weak and became useless. It was never a stable strain and usually produced four varieties. Root Beer, deep purple, magenta, and light silver green.
There was never any Haze Brothers, that's urban legend. There were haze brothers that were large buyers and were brothers so we called them the haze brothers but there was three of them anyway.

Sam was a neighbor that got some of the seeds and in early 80's moved to amsterdam and the rest is history. if there is anyone that deserves respect for saving and back breeding the line into stronger more stable plants it would have been mr. skunk. who i do not know personally but might have bumped into back then among the circle.

any other persons claim to have bred "haze" is just co-opting a word that
was attributed to a paricular accident that produced some of the greatest
ever.

all the other stories are bull shit period end of story. Mr. Skunkman's report on this has been on the mark, and more importantly, it was his
vision and drive that brought the genetics to holland where he shared them and the rest is history.

hope you all enjoyed the real story.
peace/hh

 

[Dank-j]

Great post. Punta Roja seed eh - I think I hear a new goldrush coming on.

Interesting to know that there were 3 of the quote on quote haze brothers.

What pheno(s) did sam end up with to create the haze line as we know it today?

 

[daemos]

^^^Good qstn!

 

[Fatt Daddy]

pretty interesting. some of this stuff i already know due to my fumbling through threads on this site. it's always good to know other details relating to this topic i've never heard before though. thank you for writing this up.

 

[medmaker420]

works for me

 

[Sideshow-Bob]

...
all the other stories are bull shit period end of story...

hilarious... lol thanks for the good laugh at the morning


btw colombian gold is not the same as punto rojo... that's the only misinformation in your post i find worth correcting...

greetings

 

[PermaBuzz]

Just Columbian? I thought the ohaze was made up of 4 or more sativas, Sam has said that I think.

 

[danny karey]

cool thread, at first I thought this is just the 17th story on haze yup-f'n-eh. But this was a cool read man, very interesting.

You don't have any seeds from that era stashed away any where do ya??? How f'n killer would that be!!

Danny

 

[elmanito]

Ye and what about the Mex, Thai and South-Indian???
Which Colombian was used for the Haze the Colombian Gold or the Punto Rojo???

Namaste

 

[charlie garcia]

btw colombian gold is not the same as punto rojo

I could agree but I am not sure Sideshow, really, Ive read such asociation before although english calling to the lines makes them always contradictory and this is something which still confuses me when ppl talking about columbian lines. If gold means yellow (maybe lime green phenos referred), Punta Roja o Punto rojo means red dot. Sometimes they show pink-red hairs, sometimes calyxes and leafes turn purple. There are some variations yet in present Punto Rojos in phenos and even in flowering times depending on areas. Also some talk about golds being maybe only Sta Martas sierra lines. Maybe also different lines related or not could have been present there for certain time mixing each other which produced different qualities or different phenos made that. Hard to say but interesting and simple version of story of its origins

best

 

[l33t]

Happyhi ,

i must begin by saying everything that Sam the Skunkman has ever reported about it is accurate. He may have left out
some fun details that i will share.

Sam has reported that the Haze Brothers were the creators of the Haze line , you say they were not the ones that made it. Your stories dont match at all.

Haze - the name? Hendrix "purple haze is on my brain" thats where Haze
comes from.

Sam said that the purple haze was not named after the song of Hendrix. Again no match here.

So how can you say that the story you present is in full accordance with Sams..?
Actually your story is quite different to Sam's.

And regarding Haze genetic origins Sam says Haze is Col , Mex , Thai & S.Indian , you say that its only Colombian..

all the other stories are bull shit period end of story. Mr. Skunkman's report on this has been on the mark

You say his report has been on the mark yet your story is quite different to Sams..So you sound bit confused.

 

[bigherb]

happyhi

surprising verison of the story but interesting

Ye and what about the Mex, Thai and South-Indian???

exactly


nice story but a bit short have to say id disagree

i also think sams has given us a bit more info then this

Which Colombian was used for the Haze the Colombian Gold or the Punto Rojo???

will if i remember correct sams said colombian gold n colombian wacky weed were som of the lumbos used but there were many i believe

i highly doubt that o.haze was a pure lumbo

as far as i kno punto rojo is not cg

Root Beer, deep purple, magenta, and light silver green.

you have given a report on magenta i believe we would all appreciate smoke reports from the rest of the varieties

1luvbigherb

 

[clorox]

this thread smells funny

 

[Sideshow-Bob]

I could agree but I am not sure Sideshow, really, Ive read such asociation before although english calling to the lines makes them always contradictory and this is something which still confuses me when ppl talking about columbian lines. If gold means yellow (maybe lime green phenos referred), Punta Roja o Punto rojo means red dot. Sometimes they show pink-red hairs, sometimes calyxes and leafes turn purple. There are some variations yet in present Punto Rojos in phenos and even in flowering times depending on areas. Also some talk about golds being maybe only Sta Martas sierra lines. Maybe also different lines related or not could have been present there for certain time mixing each other which produced different qualities or different phenos made that. Hard to say but interesting and simple version of story of its origins

best

hey charlie

I don't have any first hand expirience growing colombian lines... that being said, i think i remember RedRider talking about the differences between the different colombian lines, as far as i recall he said it are different lines, the gold being (like you say) from santa marta and the rojo being longer flowering and from the highlands...

i'll try to find this information, but real research on ICmag is nearly impossible for me since the software update, now you can only use the search-feature when being logged on... and as i post using a proxy server it's just way too slow, takes me like ten times as long as before... anyways i'll search

btw, anybody knows what happened to RedRider? always enjoyed his posts and haven't seen him online for quite a while...


on the OHaze-story: i think we can all agree that this version is, in the best case, somebody mislead by some old pothead who wants some fame for himself, in the worst case just a troll trying to stir shit... damn i think i really had to try hard to write a text that short that contradicts its self that often


greetings


edit: here's the thread i was talking about (i'm amazed by my stoner brain... damn that was more than 2 years ago... but obviously left a deep impression )

http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55189

 

[whodair]

love the haze smell! neville!

 

[imnotcrazy]

Some Lumbo info right at the top: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40995

 

[happyhi]

now i see why sam does not respond to so much of the community.
i'm sorry if you don't like the facts. it is what it is, the story i conveyed is
the absolute truth of how the name and strain came to be.

sam has already sent me a PM, it was not critical. maybe he will come on here
and tell you all that what i have shared is in fact the truth. his choice to let the
haze bros concept and any other stories live on is in part i think his desire to just
not have to answer any more silly questions.

when i got back into growing and discovered this online community i was excited and
opted to share my original haze poster with you all, and told the community that i would report back when i had the chance to hang with the guy that created the haze. that was months ago, if i just wanted to tell you all a bull shit story i could have done that long ago. instead, true to my word, i got the real story and shared it. sorry if it does not match up with your expectations. it is what happened.
peace/hh

btw,
wtf- do you think anyone in '69 was arguing about punta roja versus colombian gold? what a joke, back then they were all just names, to some it was CG to other PR, no matter. The guy who grew it and named it used the term i shared do with it what you like.

 

[charlie garcia]

Must sorry if my reply could cause you some bother Happyhi wasnt my intenton at all nor be unpolite but informative, am big columbian fan myselfand always try to understand columbian genetic puzzle something so difficult due lack of info from old times
stay well
Best

 

[haze crazy]

The smell of haze make me tingle where it counts...

 

[joaquin386]

L33t make a good point there. Hope that Sam comes here himself and tell us otherwise but so far L33t is right.

Not a consistent story.