Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[moose eater]

.....And by the time a person is in their 'golden years' they've often been handled, naked and otherwise, by enough male and female nurses, med techs, or doctors, and been around enough, that the puritan-born inhibitions about the human body and dysfunctional conditioning about such, holds less and less water, so to speak.

Been there and done that. Still doing that more often than I'd care to.

Also, I previously worked with sexual offenders as a MH clinician, both pedophiles and random sexual assault type folks... And victims of various ages, as well...

 

[Cannavore]

I knew I was attracted to girls in the second or third grade looking at a Playboy in the schoolyard with the homies.

Gay people have similar experiences of knowing their sexuality from a young age.

Why would a trans person being any different than a traditional hetero/homo attraction be so hard to fathom? People are literally born as conjoined twins and all sorts of crazy shit but someone "born in the wrong body" is a bridge too far?

 

[pop_rocks]

Those are my favorite kind. And the unisex restrooms with no walls or stalls are the absolute BEST!!

But then most humans, by the time they get to their senior years, have pretty much lost any real sense of vanity anyway. And the fears that someone might be looking is merely an illusion born of egocentricism.

now you are just being modest! you know im sneaking a peek
/and i like what i see

but i notice some people are really hung up on their body and being naked is a private thing for most
/you are at your most vulnerable

@Cannavore is right, a lot of it is just how people are born

 

[Hiddenjems]

A naked human body is traumatizing?!

Bwahahaha!!!

But wars and glorification of television violence are patriotic and normal.

No wonder the world's fucked up.

A grown man exposing his dick to little girls is traumatizing. If you think it’s cool to flash your dick around kids openly in public spaces, there’s no hope.

 

[moose eater]

A grown man exposing his dick to little girls is traumatizing. If you think it’s cool to flash your dick around kids openly in public spaces, there’s no hope.

I strongly suspect s/he was in the changing room before the woman and kids entered, based on the initial presentation of the encounter.

'Flashing his dick' is your read on what actually transpired, but then your biases have been made plenty clear.

 

[moose eater]

Parts of Europe and some other cultures/regions are far less hung up on human anatomy than the prudish US.

Perhaps having ended the Pilgrims' and Puritans' presence here at Plymouth Rock would've been better for everyone.

 

[moose eater]

By the way... the majority of those dealing with pedophilia whom I worked with clinically came from fundamentalist religious backgrounds. No, really.

Do you suspect there's a correlation between being taught 'the body is taboo' and those who step out of line with child victims or others?

 

[pop_rocks]

A grown man exposing his dick to little girls is traumatizing. If you think it’s cool to flash your dick around kids openly in public spaces, there’s no hope.

I strongly suspect s/he was in the changing room before the woman and kids entered, based on the initial presentation of the encounter.

'Flashing his dick' is your read on what actually transpired, but then your biases have been made plenty clear.

RIGHT! thats a pretty big leap there, going from some second hand story heard "from a mate" to a weirdo flashing his junk to kids
and its not a public place, its a changing room in a clothing store
im not advocating for pedophillia, sexual assault or weird shit, but i do think some people are just born different

 

[moose eater]

Religious Affiliations Among Adult Sexual Offenders | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

 

[moose eater]

Researchers reveal patterns of sexual abuse in religious settings

www.ualberta.ca

 

[moose eater]

Some of us are born to fear the dust bunnies under our beds, while some of those things we trust without much question run rampantly through our lives.

Seems 'stranger danger' is trumped by elongated involvement in conventional social settings where pedophilia is concerned.

 

[moose eater]

One of the groups that statistically committed notably lower rates of sexual offenses, whether against children or adults? Those affiliated with nudist ideology.

Granted, that was 30+ years ago, but it was a studied phenomenon, at least to some degree.

Normalization tends to take a lot of the 'thrill' out of many things.

Ask a guy who's been married for 50 years how exciting tits are.

 

[pop_rocks]

Some of us are born to fear the dust bunnies under our beds, while some of those things we trust without much question run rampantly through our lives.

Seems 'stranger danger' is trumped by elongated involvement in conventional social settings where pedophilia is concerned.

One of the groups that statistically committed notably lower rates of sexual offenses, whether against children or adults? Those affiliated with nudist ideology.

Granted, that was 30+ years ago, but it was a studied phenomenon, at least to some degree.

Normalization tends t take a lot of the 'thrill' out of many things.

get out of here with your science!
DONT YOU GET IT, GHeZ= BAD
TRaNyZ = BAD
SWEET NAKED A$$= ???
/the jury is still out on this one

 

[moose eater]

get out of here with your science!
DONT YOU GET IT, GHeZ= BAD
TRaNyZ = BAD
SWEET NAKED A$$= ???
/the jury is still out on this one

In my world, under-cooked omelets are bad, pop...

And neighbors who have double-standards where self-determination and one's property boundaries are concerned....

And incessant political ads for obvious derelict candidates running night and day every so many years. Those are bad.

Blueberry yogurt -can- be bad... especially in excess...

Unintentionally pollinated female cannabis plants are bad.. in my world.

So are bananas when they are apart from nut bread.... even on a sundae. (I know, weird, right?)

Bigots. They're bad too. Seems every generation has a group of people bent on telling us how afraid we ought to be, and routinely misdiagnosing the core issues. They're pretty bad as well.

And people who let sharp objects fall out of their pick-up truck beds at the dump, allowing others to acquire expensive flat tires. They're REALLY bad.

And pedophiles, they're bad in the active expression of their disorders too.

And double standards in the courts for those with exceptional legal representation via wealth, versus what the rest of the Country's commoners receive.

And people who drive in front of me on the highway who should've done a rebuild on their motor 50,000 miles ago, thus filling my passenger compartment with horrible smoke from half-burned oil.

And people who borrow tools, but never offer to return them, causing the owner to track them down.

And people who collect money for doing a job, but don't properly do the job.

Shit, I could write a novella about all the things that are truly bad.

But having been a long-distance hitchhiker for a good part of my wayward youth, and not having been raped by any gay, transvestite or bi-sexual people (despite encountering many of them), I'm not sure that some fellow in a nice chiffon skirt would make my list of 'bad shit.' Or even register inherently as a threat.

I think we have a society where lots of people want their neuroses to be guarded by the punitive arm of the law so we can all live in fear of non-issues. Gives us something to talk about when there's no good soap operas on the tube, and we're tired of typing to strangers in forums.

Hope you're having a glorious day, pop...

 

[moose eater]

By the way, I attended both summer camp and day camp, as well as martial arts as a very young lad. In the locker rooms we would inadvertently witness other men's genitalia.

Maybe I ought to seek therapy for that gross violation of my innocence and purity. I was born of Hoosier roots, after all.. Never mind that they seemingly looked a lot like my own or my father's. Of course, I didn't get right up on them to be certain of this. Boundaries, and all of that stuff.

Or perhaps the therapy should be reserved for the other truly horrid shit that occurred back then... I'll give that some thought... for a millisecond or 2.

 

[pop_rocks]

In my world, under-cooked omelets are bad, pop...

And neighbors who have double-standards where self-determination and one's property boundaries are concerned....

And incessant political ads for obvious derelict candidates running night and day every so many years. Those are bad.

Blueberry yogurt -can- be bad... especially in excess...

Unintentionally pollinated female cannabis plants are bad.. in my world.

So are bananas when they are apart from nut bread.... even on a sundae. (I know, weird, right?)

Bigots. They're bad too. Seems every generation has a group of people bent on telling us how afraid we ought to be, and routinely misdiagnosing the core issues. They're pretty bad as well.

And people who let sharp objects fall out of their pick-up truck beds at the dump, allowing others to acquire expensive flat tires. They're REALLY bad.

And pedophiles, they're bad in the active expression of their disorders too.

And double standards in the courts for those with exceptional legal representation via wealth, versus what the rest of the Country's commoners receive.

And people who drive in front of me on the highway who should've done a rebuild on their motor 50,000 miles ago, thus filling my passenger compartment with horrible smoke from half-burned oil.

And people who borrow tools, but never offer to return them, causing the owner to track them down.

And people who collect money for doing a job, but don't properly do the job.

Shit, I could write a novella about all the things that are truly bad.

But having been a long-distance hitchhiker for a good part of my wayward youth, and not having been raped by any gay, transvestite or bi-sexual people (despite encountering many of them), I'm not sure that some fellow in a nice chiffon skirt would make my list of 'bad shit.' Or even register inherently as a threat.

I think we have a society where lots of people want their neuroses to be guarded by the punitive arm of the law so we can all live in fear of non-issues. Gives us something to talk about when there's no good soap operas on the tube, and we're tired of typing to strangers in forums.

Hope you're having a glorious day, pop...

you know it brother! every day is a glorious day and tomorrow will be even better

the novela:
im ok with good soft scrambled egg, but you need to get an omlet right
...
anything with blueberries is good, try adding banana!
...
mental disorders is tough and i wish we could do more to help, but a lot of it comes down to the person
...
$$ inequality in the legal system? thats just sounds like poor people talk
...
for the most part the gay/trans people ive know (yes, ive actually known these people in real life) are not bad people
but i know they are checking me out! and i see them licking their lips

 

[moose eater]

you know it brother! every day is a glorious day and tomorrow will be even better

Glad to read that pop.

I'm off to take our newest German shepherd out for her potty break before her easy-over egg on top of her premium dry kibble.

I'm pretty sure she's heterosexual, despite the prevalence of homosexual behavior among mammals and other critters in this world. But she's too young to be open about any of that yet.

If any of the local dogs start showing up dressed in non-gender-appropriate attire, I'll keep the baseball bat at the ready. I want ALL of them to know what -really- matters in this life.

 

[Chi13]

A grown man exposing his dick to little girls is traumatizing. If you think it’s cool to flash your dick around kids openly in public spaces, there’s no hope.

I grew up in a family where nudity was considered natural, nothing sexual about it. Maybe it was the era but it was common for friends to come over and swim in our dam nude. It was not remotely traumatising for me as a kid, or for my sister and all the other kids. People weren't exposing their dicks to kids, they were simply taking off their clothes to swim.

If you see something sexual about someone nude, then that is your problem and twisted interpretation.

 

[pop_rocks]

Glad to read that pop.

I'm off to take our newest German shepherd out for her potty break before her easy-over egg on top of her premium dry kibble.

I'm pretty sure she's heterosexual, despite the prevalence of homosexual behavior among mammals and other critters in this world. But she's too young to be open about any of that yet.

If any of the local dogs start showing up dressed in non-gender-appropriate attire, I'll keep the baseball bat at the ready. I want ALL of them to know what -really- matters in this life.

i added to the post man, but i deleted some of the wacky stuff
is this a puppy or an older dog?
and how is it that this dog is eating better than me! an over easy egg over premium kibble!
im lucky to get a can of soup and a piece of burnt toast
/xoxo mrs.chicky

if the dog seems queer i have a place for it

wwroowwrrrr

 

[moose eater]

i added to the post man, but i deleted some of the wacky stuff
is this a puppy or an older dog?
and how is it that this dog is eating better than me! an over easy egg over premium kibble!
im lucky to get a can of soup and a piece of burnt toast
/xoxo mrs.chicky

if the dog seems queer i have a place for it

wwroowwrrrr

Hahahahahaha!!

I saw you'd made some additions.

I think you're bragging about you being handsome re. the LGBTQ folks admiring you, pop.

I met several folks of different sexual identities on the road who propositioned me over time, and I found a simple, "Thanks, but that's not my interest" or similar statement, to be more than adequate.

I had a peer in lower Michigan in the mid-70s who came back from a hitching trip and bragged about a gay person asking him if he was interested, and him stabbing the fellow in the hand with a knife.. over being asked a question.

Like I stated earlier, whether male or female making the proposal, when/if there was cause to decline, I always found a simple, "No thanks", sufficed. No knives or insecurity-born violence necessary, though I carried a large scuba knife on my pack, a shotgun in a hard case, and a smaller pocketknife.

I turned down sex with a woman three times on the road, one of them because she was married and she told me (I was 18) that she had an 'arrangement' with her husband. It was roadside in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, west of Marquette. I told her that I had an arrangement with myself, too; "I don't fuck married women."

We've got 2 German shepherds here at the moment. An adult female who is about 2-3/4 years old now, and a female puppy that's about 7-2/3-months old.

If the pup starts listening to Lou Reed on a loop, or maybe Millie Vanillie, and dressing in flamboyant colors, I'll let you know.