So you wanna be a commercial grower?

[TGT]

The majority of commercil grows around here are done in Promix soiless mix. Easy and cheap to set up with no tubes, pumps ect. to worry about. It is a pain to get the soil and dispose of it, but it beats moving pipes and all the other stuff that goes with a hydro grow. Promix with grow bags makes for an easy and cheap set that is very productive if done correctly. Also, alot of commercial growers reuse their soil by mixing it with dolomite lime. After three crops it is disposed of, so this lessons the amount of soil going out. Usually they find a town house or home that has a garage attached. That way stuff can be brought in without anyone noticing.

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[wafflehouselove]

So why is it that alot of people hate on the commercial growers (because they do what they do most of them steal electric a few don't) and they are here asking how its done. When you enter the commercial realm time is everything(in commercial time = money which is the reason why u would be in commercial) so they will cut every corner there is that can be made that can save them time(Note that every grower has a different way of growing). Every shit that hits the news is high profile that's because they have tons growing and "most" likely stealing electricity to supply the tons that are growing and the mistake they made is obviously dumb, (if you can't think see that then you shouldn't be here)But we see the same mistakes get done over all again. There is alot of people that get away and we don't speak about them because its never on the news, but I say if your a smart fellow that is on top of your game then you already have this commercial shit already and no need for this. What i hate the most is alot of people see a bust and they say "Oh they were stealing" but they don't focus on the real reason why they were actually caught, just like a guy gets pulled over for traffic and got busted, we don't know that because its not high profile. So please people i ask that you stop jumping to conclusion and you have a brain use it and learn from the real mistake, not because here say or because your agreeing with everyone else that they are stealing just to make you seem smart.

Btw stop hating on commercial growers, because of them people that doesn't know how to grow gets to smoke, and im pretty sure you once never knew how to grow before.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Hi people.
Cool thread....i dont wanna piss anyone off, i dont have years of veteran hands on knowledge and im always trying to learn but i wanna pitch in.

i figured since its a commercial thread there would be more talk about rockwool, flood&drain, proper cloning, somewhere along the line but i guess i was wrong....unless i missed it (shame on me)

commercial-wise rockwool cubes, blocks, slabs are much easier to transport, conceal in boxes, and not as messy to work with once u get down to business.. then aggregates like promix, perlite,vermiculite.

moms and clones are the backbone to any successful continuous grow, commercial, or not. lots of moms, keep backups...and back up your backups.

LOL, no, you won't piss anybody off by getting this thread back on topic, even if the "all Texans are nazis, but some are more nazi than others" conversation was quite interesting.....

I agree with you, large scale operations benefit from a lot of thought and experience. If you repeat a job 1,000 or 10,000 x it is better to do it in an efficient way. I learnt most things of interest from The Grower magazine... and it's information from the glasshouse industry ... these guys are very interesting, they have PHD's, 10 hectare gardens and communicate with a lot of others growing large scale commercial products that are legal, but worth pennies. This means they need to be very sharp and get it exactly right or they go bust. We on the other hand take a legal risk, but grow a ridiculously high value crop so can make all sorts of fantastically stupid errors and still come up smelling of roses. There is a lot we can learn from each other.

For exapmle....NFT is the highest yielding hydro method I believe and one I worked with for years. I saw a really neat commercial NFT system that has been used successfully that many of you will probably not have seen that is optimally suited for large scale production and the fastest planting/cleanup. I have ever seen..... but it is not being sold to weed growers.....likewise, IMO you can quite quickly tell if a product is snake oil by seeing if glasshouse owners are buying anything similar. Friends who do not check their NFT tanks often enough are shown photos of glasshouse farmers who - after a lot of careful research - have bought $45,000 systems to constantly adjust Ph and the CF.

My fave system is the Norwegian NFT guy who has lots of long glowing polytunnels...... with 45 day conveyor belts inside... you stand up [straight, good design...] and plant out at one end whilst at the other end, 45 day old Lettuce is arriving to be harvested.

 

[swampy_nz]

So why is it that alot of people hate on the commercial growers (because they do what they do most of them steal electric a few don't) and they are here asking how its done. When you enter the commercial realm time is everything(in commercial time = money which is the reason why u would be in commercial) so they will cut every corner there is that can be made that can save them time(Note that every grower has a different way of growing). Every shit that hits the news is high profile that's because they have tons growing and "most" likely stealing electricity to supply the tons that are growing and the mistake they made is obviously dumb, (if you can't think see that then you shouldn't be here)But we see the same mistakes get done over all again. There is alot of people that get away and we don't speak about them because its never on the news, but I say if your a smart fellow that is on top of your game then you already have this commercial shit already and no need for this. What i hate the most is alot of people see a bust and they say "Oh they were stealing" but they don't focus on the real reason why they were actually caught, just like a guy gets pulled over for traffic and got busted, we don't know that because its not high profile. So please people i ask that you stop jumping to conclusion and you have a brain use it and learn from the real mistake, not because here say or because your agreeing with everyone else that they are stealing just to make you seem smart.

Btw stop hating on commercial growers, because of them people that doesn't know how to grow gets to smoke, and im pretty sure you once never knew how to grow before.

Whos hating on commercial growers in this forum??

I believe that soil is the way to go.
Very simple if you know what your doing.
more forgiving than hydro+less maintenance
Just make yourself a nice big vege garden and dig in your used soil.

 

[random nobody]

if you are growing commercially indoors, you probably would want to phase out the use of any mediums and focus on simply oxygen and water. If anything, use hydroton and just recycle it.

wise words. i personally got no exp. with hydroton but i want to learn.
for commercial purposes i think the medium you use is an importrant choice. im a promix fan myself and have popped my growing cherry w/ organic soils and perlite. my humble opinion regarding industrial growing is the medium should be cheap, clean (mess wise), easily accessible.

the rockwool cubes/blocks needed for the lives of hundreds of plants do not take as much storage room and are easier to travel with when dry.opposed to promix. no spills, messes. those are my reasons for contemplating blocks as medium.

 

[LiLWaynE]

im going to start unloading some commercial grow pics...

im going to start unloading some commercial grow pics...

here are some... im going to try and keep adding them as i find them... you should do the same...

 

[green-genes77]

That's pretty fucking sick, man.

 

[Brad]

thats what im sayin...nice one!

 

[milkon]

very nice i love it

 

[LiLWaynE]

 

[LiLWaynE]

you cant forget the world famous pot cave...

you cant forget the world famous pot cave...

 

[LiLWaynE]

Hopefully no member of this site ever gets to see this in real life...

Hopefully no member of this site ever gets to see this in real life...

 

[LiLWaynE]

im sure some people have seen some of these guys...

im sure some people have seen some of these guys...

 

[LiLWaynE]

just found this link... pretty interesting...

http://kylasolowka.mm4a.com/4a_custpage_16059.html

well here is what it says:

Marijuana Grow Houses - Red Flags

Identifying a Former Grow House:

Mould in corners where the walls and ceilings meet
Painted concrete floors in the basement, with circular marks of where pots once were
Evidence of tampering with the electric meter or the ground around it
Indications of windows and doors having been sealed
Unusual or modified wiring on the exterior of the house
Brownish stains around the soffit that bleed down along the siding
Concrete masonry patches, or alterations on the inside of the garage
Patterns of screwholes on the walls
Alteration of fire places
Denting on front doors (from police ramming the door)
Identifying Potential Grow House Operators (Purchasers):

Third party purchasers
Questionable income sources
No contract negotiation
Offers to pay in large amounts of cash; multiple cash transactions
Multiple down payments on behalf of one individual
Secretiveness and no reasonable explanations
Identifying Potential Grow House Operators (Renters):

Did the renter check out every room?
Did the renter provide proper identification?
Have references been provided and do they check out?
Did the renter spend a lot of time viewing the breaker boxes, wiring and plumbing?
Contacts for More Information:

Contact your local police department for more information or specific concerns

(Source: Compiled with information from the Canadian Real Estate Association and chrismathers inc. crime and risk consulting)

 

[LiLWaynE]

learn from this...

learn from this...

A 24-year-old Riverside man is under arrest for maintaining a sophisticated marijuana growing operation in a large residence in the 18300-block of Van Buren Blvd., just outside the city limits near a feed store and within yards of a nearby Christian high school.

Riverside Police Narcotics Investigators, acting on a tip, arrived at the five-bedroom 2,783-square-foot one story home Monday, April 30, and discovered 675 marijuana plants under cultivation. The entire house had been expertly converted for the purpose of efficiently growing marijuana. Among the evidence confiscated were three dozen 1000-watt sunlamps, 30 power box converters, five air purifiers, a humidifier and a drip irrigation system. Police seized 240 pounds of marijuana, which could have topped 1,300 pounds of saleable marijuana if the plants had reached maturity. The operation was powered by electricity diverted from Southern California Edison in Riverside County and distributed throughout the house by an elaborate transformer system. The house was rented from Orange County owners.

The suspect, Justin WEATHERWAX, 24, told investigators he was responsible for the entire operation, but investigators say the level of sophistication, expert workmanship and costs of the confiscated equipment make that unlikely. Weatherwax was booked for cultivation of marijuana and theft of electrical power.

 

[Herbalistic]

Thank you so much foir contributing lil Wayne

That link seems to be quite interesting when I read with thought. Every one should take care of their shit even in smallest manner before even starting to think commercial growing

There´s no room for small mistakes, they can bust you right at the beginning, or caught someones attention soon or later...

Btw, was that potcave of Avery familys Huge operation!!! The it should be done

 

[swampy_nz]

AARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH.

DONT STEAL F#@KING POWER.GOD!

 

[EddieShoestring]

great pics lilwayne

swampy_DONT STEAL F#@KING POWER.GOD!

yeah-just pay those 36k bills

 

[swampy_nz]

power company's know when power numbers dont add up in a certain area.A small amount you could probably get away with bu a large commercial grow set will set of alarm bells over a period of time.stealing power is just dumb.thats how people get busted.

 

[TGT]

LW, that first picture you posted on this page shows some nice plants growing with lots of well formed buds. Isn't that strange how high they have the lights and for it to produce like it has? I have noticed this in a lot of large scale grows. I wonder why they don't put the lights closer, I am sure it would yieild more. It seems the only people who put the lights close are people doing smaller grows under 8000 watts. Usually anything larger and it seems many keep the lights rather high. I wonder if this is done to make it easier and less time consumming. It is a pain in the ass trying to keep the plants from being burned sometimes. Any other reasons you guys can see? Also, it seems they do rather well at a distance - I wonder if some strains produce more bud under less light?

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