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AN PH Perfect experiences?

LyryC

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Read the title you assholes. "AN PH Perfect experiences?"

If your not using AN and providing feed back on your experience, you should find a thread that suits your nutrient regime and brag that you paid 1.5 cents a gallon on that thread.

AN Users do not care about your input when its negative, and its constantly negative around here.

Ironic how AN users don't disrespect anyone else's nutrient regime... but are constantly harassed due to some one else's view point, rarely any experience.

On the other thread, there was one good post recently of feed back from some ones actual experience.

Other than that the 2 AN threads I am a part of are constantly bombarded by some one who feels the right to convict AN users and rarely is there a positive outcome from these "discussions".

Politely go away, we have AN and are using it, won't change a thing when you talk shit.

Go buy some AN, compare it to your 1.5 cent gallon nutrients and then TALK ALL THE SHIT YOU WANT.

Till then, leave the price argument, the differences, and your god dam opinion out of here unless you are using the Nutrients we are trying to share experiences about.

Thank you.
 

whodare

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I'm sorry, what was the difference other than price?

And who's being negative?

And some people posted experiences, some offered advice so you can save money and not sponsor a shady company ran by a giant douche...
 

Jbonez

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I'm sorry, what was the difference other than price?

And who's being negative?

And some people posted experiences, some offered advice so you can save money and not sponsor a shady company ran by a giant douche...

Some people are victims... Or simply havent absorbed enough burden to make a more informed choice.

I personally have had dealings from the retail side, and lets just say advanced doesnt like it when you do business with certain distributors. Their products work. But they arent making anything any more special than the next company and only a younger generation of growers would promote this. AN is a product you can and most likely will succeed with, I doubt anyone would argue that, but when knowledgeable guys waste there time to drop some expedience on your otherwise exponentially successful learning process, you guys should listen..

I however rarely expect logic to prevail.. Its not a common human trait.
 

LyryC

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The difference is I read this entire thread. Sadly the discussion is about price, when this thread was supposed be about using the line.

AN's ethics are not in question, AN's applications are.

What I read after I posted today was an asshole picking on me because he doesn't like the Nutrients I am using.

Then some guy who think's hes better because he pays 1.5 cents a gallon of feed.

And to top it all off, an intelligent guy acts like a retard...

Come one guys... learn how to get your message across.

I'm done with this thread and doubt any further usefulness will come from it.
 

Homebrewer

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What I read after I posted today was an asshole picking on me because he doesn't like the Nutrients I am using.

You're using 16 bottles to grow average plants and I'm the asshole? Why are you using so many bottles to begin with? Is it because you need to or is it because you just don't know any better? Furthermore, why are you using 'pH perfect' when you're not even growing hydroponically? Are you finding that the pH of your nutrient mixture stays pretty steady for the 30 seconds it takes to walk from your mixing table to your plants? Definitely worth the price for that alone, right?

Speaking of price, how is it not relevant? Does it chap your ass knowing you spent a small fortune on all those bottles when your local nursery had everything your plants need for about $10?

It's just mineral salts in water, man. Sometimes the water isn't even included. I'm going to follow your journal to see how your grow ends up but you should really look into making things easier on yourself.
 

LyryC

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Get outa here.

Get outa here.

You're using 16 bottles to grow average plants and I'm the asshole? Why are you using so many bottles to begin with? Is it because you need to or is it because you just don't know any better? Furthermore, why are you using 'pH perfect' when you're not even growing hydroponically? Are you finding that the pH of your nutrient mixture stays pretty steady for the 30 seconds it takes to walk from your mixing table to your plants? Definitely worth the price for that alone, right?

Speaking of price, how is it not relevant? Does it chap your ass knowing you spent a small fortune on all those bottles when your local nursery had everything your plants need for about $10?

It's just mineral salts in water, man. Sometimes the water isn't even included. I'm going to follow your journal to see how your grow ends up but you should really look into making things easier on yourself.

A fat turd as well, no doubt in my mind.

half the bottles are for bloom and aren't even open.

I'm using how ever many bottles I want!

In fact, JUST FOR homebrewer, I poured the nutrients half out of each bottle and into other bottles so that I now have DOUBLE THE BOTTLES!!!

I need all those bottles for my ego, otherwise my plants won't grow, its a hard-life for me homebrewer.

Furthermore, Rockwool is not a hydroponic medium everyone!!!!!

Dude 30 seconds is stretching the ph perfect capabilities. I mean it only keeps my ph at 5.8 every time WTF! I don't really have to do anything when I mix my nutrients other than measure out the amount needed, dump them in water and stir. WOW I must be the stupidest grower to hit ICMag, and to think I can add 8 different additives, most not AN, to my base nutrients and the ppms never hit over 1000 and the ph is always spot on? Touche homebrewer, you got me, the price was everything determining my purchase, what will I do... I know! CHAP MY ASS!

The price has nothing to do with my experience but obviously yours. The thread isn't about the money its about the nutrients. You failed to read half of what I wrote and clearly stuck with what you thought is right, what you think this thread is about and what you think we should all discuss and clearly see as well.

I know what Nutrients are, and am aware of your good intentions but its how you come across with the knowledge, not the knowledge itself.

If you want to keep beating that dead horse around the track, so be it, but clearly this thread was not meant to be a price showdown, it was meant to bring together users of a nutrient line and have them share and enjoy their experiences.

Everywhere I go to talk about AN on this site, I get caught up with the likes of someone who is totally against what I already have, who doesn't realize I'm not changing the nutrients out for other ones and who doesn't want to acknowledge that price is not the point of discussion.

To make this any easier on myself, I would stop posting in here and gain only one other improvement. An automated watering system.
 

LyryC

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you can look at my results in my threads :joint:

Switched to GH 6/9 - way doper. AND CHEAPER.

LOL @ my last post in this thread LOL

Honestly the stuff works - but its not the best - nothing is...
 

Homebrewer

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you can look at my results in my threads :joint:

Switched to GH 6/9 - way doper. AND CHEAPER.

LOL @ my last post in this thread LOL

Honestly the stuff works - but its not the best - nothing is...

I'm glad you finally found your way :tiphat:.
 

rangergord

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I am using sensi bloom for both veg and bloom. No different than lucas formula maxibloom which I just recently tried for a change. Takes too long to dissolve for my taste. Went back to AN. An easy choice for me. Its actually less expensive than GH in canada, vice versa in US. I am sure prices for AN in some countries is insane. Use what makes sense to you. Live and let live. The pH perfect feature is a great convenience.
 

Rondon

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Ive used Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow A & B with so called pH perfect "technology". My starting tap water is average at 7.6 pH and 0.2 EC (110 ppm). At 2 tsp of each part with a gallon of my tap it puts me at 6.4 pH and 1.3 - 1.4 EC (650 - 700 ppm) using no additives. I have to use just a little pH down to drop it in the 6.0 pH sweet spot. It does stay there but for me...pH perfect it is not. Matter of fact...All the base nute brands at those EC levels i like in veg (1.3 - 1.4) drop my pH to around 6.5. Maybe in my 30 gallon drain to waste tanks downstairs it would drop it down further without pH adjusting myself...but I hand water in my beg room upstairs and mix a gallon of solution by hand when plants need to be watered/ fed. I havent used it for bloom or in the big tanks yet. I run 2 rooms down there. 8 Gavita 6/750 watters in one and 4 1000 watt mogul sockets in the other. I run perpetual rotating gardens and use a tester tent for all new gear as a quarantine room. This is a must as iam a caregiver supplying 5 patients and dispensaries for overages. Anyways....i been growing a long time. Been growing in coco coir forever. Used all the brands of bottled nutrient. Its a good 2 part. Its got kelpin the part A. I can smell it. Smells like Nitrozime...which is the only additive i use with fulvic acid as a weekly foliat spray in veg and early flowering. But its not pH Perfect at 2 tsp per gallon of my tap water.
 

Buddler

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Old thread I been using sensi coco for a while now and was told how ph perfect works,long as your water falls between roughly 4 and 8 it will absorb due to chelation so it doesn't magically adjust to sweet spot the only thing I keep track of is the ppm as I like to run around 1.2 as well although they recommend 4 ml per litre so youll use lots of which imho is over kill.So try it without adjusting ph see what happens .Bud
 

Kygiacomo!!!

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I seriously doubt AN will even be in business in the next 5 years......this charade that they are running will soon come to an end as more and more growers learn about plant biology and plant nutrition.....The more you learn about plant nutrients, the more of a "gimmick" you begin to see in there product line. Also all the dirty business tactics and strong arming is also catching up to them......you cant go around burning every bridge you cross...and screwing people over without it one day catching back up to you and biting you in the ass.

Looks like u was wrong again bio master! its now been 5 years later and looks like to me they are still going strong lool:laughing:
 
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