Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[ShroomDr]

For sure.

Yeah. Let them try to say RON PAUL is doing something illegal. We (RP Supporters) will come out in mass and expose the truth, just like we are doing online. They are pissed because we are awake and fighting back using the same system they were going to exploit., except we want freedom and not world domination. This is nothing new as REGAN did the samething......Ron Paul is gonna win this as he is the one that would be elected out right if not for all the voter fraud....It's harder to steal the delegates though and Ron Pual knew it and his people came out to fill the spots, ALL LEGIT!!! LOOK IT UP! We can abstain too and if that's what it takes to take our country back from the lying cheating sell out self serving chumps, that's just what we will do. If they don't like it they can jump of a bridge or move to China.

how are you going to bring Wallstreet to the ground from the inside?
Do you think the wallstreet puppetmaster care about you or your thoughts?

I dont think you understand the animal youre trying to bring down. If you did, your approach would be totally different (which is what ive been trying to illustrate).

 

[bentom187]

From RP forums:

West Virginia, Indiana(open), and North Carolina vote Tuesday May 8th

Indiana -
OPEN Primary. 46 Delegates at stake. "Winner-take-all"
Tuesday 8 May 2012: 27 of Indiana's 46 delegates to the Republican National Convention are allocated to presidential contenders in today's Indiana Presidential Primary.

27 district delegates are to be allocated to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the 9 congressional districts: each congressional district is assigned 3 National Convention delegates and the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all 3 of that district's National Convention delegates. [Rule 9-29]

In addition, each county directly elects delegates to the State Convention. [Rule 9-3, IC 3-10-1-4]
Tuesday 8 May 2012 PrimaryContest
Pop
Vote Del
CD1 3
CD2 3
CD3 3
CD4 3
CD5 3
CD6 3
CD7 3
CD8 3
CD9 3
Delegates 27

West Virginia -
(Semi)Closed Primary. 31 Delegates at stake. Allocation per each Congressional District's election.

Tuesday 8 May 2012: 28 of West Virginia's 31 delegates to the Republican National Convention are elected in the West Virginia Presidential Primary. Each delegate candidate is individually listed on the ballot along with their presidential preference. The candidates receiving the most votes in each contest is elected.

9 district delegates (3 delegates are elected in each of the state's 3 Congressional Districts).
19 at-large delegates (10 at-large plus 9 bonus) are elected statewide.

In addition, 3 party leaders, the National Committeeman, the National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the West Virginia's Republican Party, will attend the convention as unpledged delegates by virtue of their position.

North Carolina -
(Semi)Closed Primary. 55 Delegates at stake. Proportional Allocation.

Tuesday 8 May 2012 (tentative): 52 of North Carolina's 55 delegates to the Republican National Convention are allocated to presidential contenders based on the results of the voting in today's North Carolina Primary.

The State Chairman shall allocate Delegate positions between the Candidates accurately reflecting the division of votes in the statewide primary. Each person nominated as a Delegate at either the District or State Convention must have publicly declared as a representative of a Candidate on the Presidential Preference Primary ballot prior to the election of Delegates to the National Convention. [North Carolina Republican Party Plan of Organization. ARTICLE VII. F.] [North Carolina General Statutes, specifically Section 163-213.8]
The "Uncommitted" position, not being a candidate, might not receive any delegates.

The 3 party leaders, the National Committeeman, the National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the North Carolina's Republican Party, will attend the convention as unbound delegates by virtue of their position.

 

[medmaker420]

Jesse Ventura... beyond that there are NONE. Its all smoke and mirrors, its all fake, even Ron Paul. He is full on freemason and if you are honest with yourself you would know exactly who he serves and it aint the people.

complete bullshit.

I helped run the local ron paul campaign in my city and it was not smoke and mirrors. Smoke and mirrors are filling romney and obama rooms for sure but ron pauls rooms keep GROWING!

Ron Paul is the last true patriot plain and simple. You can call him a free mason all you want but usually the free masons are not laughed at, ridiculed and mocked while supressing his real support.

If anyone is a mason it would be the bushs, clintons and obamas because they got propped up like nobodies business.

I do find your ideas outside the box which is always fun to read but to put ron paul instep with asshats like the many propped up masons is laughable at best.

Any proof to the masonry as well as what he has done to further that cause versus the constitution, liberty and personal freedom which DOES SHINE THROUGH in every vote that man has laid down for the last 30 years.

What you think he is waiting for the right time to spring the all powerful ron paul masonry overtaking of the country? What do you see him doing with all that power?

I know a President Paul presidency would mean personal liberties across the board BUT that also will mean personal responsibility would need to be used else the "free market" will eat you up lol.

I hope you are just being sarcastic but hell in these forums everyone else thinks I am crazy most times lol.

Ron Paul will be remembered in history but hopefully not as the last true patriot. There are many more to follow him and many men before him who stood up for and fought for the constitution and everything this amazing country USED TO stand for.

Now people look to a president to run the economy, the health care, the wars, the snacks allowed at schools. Where the fuck are we people?

 

[kaka_]

I am not kidding and I knew some people would get butthurt over my opinions. The evidence is out there of his masonic ties. Also look at his wife and daughters masonic ties. Its out there, do you own DD.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn174/AboveTopSecretDotCom/image_hand_sign_ron_paul_01.jpg

It is funny that you think the ptb would ever allow a real contender to run. It is all fake and it is all for show.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Too many conspiracy theories to vote for a guy who might actually believe em. I thought I'd seen em all until a poster reneged on Paul for yet another conspiracy - freemasonry.

Freemasonry's real but the conspiracy bs is a urban myth. Freemasons have nothing to hide and charges of (whatever you happen to charge) are baloney.

It's just like the long-form birth certificate. The very people insisting the long form would settle the matter in reality took the conspiracy to new heights. Now, Joe bullshitter in Arizona says he's not sure the president's involved in the coverup. What a stupid fuck.

It all starts with a secret oath. There are no less than 600 societies in the US who incorporate a secret oath. What's the secret? Global conspiracy - the only lie diabolical enough to keep you glued to the baloney.

Then inquiring minds discover there are degrees of achievement, er uh degrees of evil or whatever.

All a bunch of baloney to sell advertising or cry "send me some money!" yee hah.

 

[ShroomDr]

owning lots of 'precious metal' stocks, and advocating the end of the FED...

Is it the chicken or the Egg...





...either way, there is no denying its a 'fowl' (or is it 'foul')....

 

[ShroomDr]

Santorum On Leno Tonight

 

[kaka_]

owning lots of 'precious metal' stocks, and advocating the end of the FED...

Is it the chicken or the Egg...





...either way, there is no denying its a 'fowl' (or is it 'foul')....

I own my fair share of mining stocks but much more invested in physical, I am also pretty passionate about killing the fed.... far less passionate about Dr. Paul now days.

I knew my opinion wouldn't be a popular one... but it is what it is.

 

[zymos]

The evidence is out there of his masonic ties. Also look at his wife and daughters masonic ties.

I used to have a masonic tie, but I spilled wine on it so I don't wear it anymore.



How clever is that?- you came up with a conspiracy theory that even the most tin-foil-hatish posters on this thread will refuse to believe, because this one is about Paul and not the other candidates...

 

[itisme]

how are you going to bring Wallstreet to the ground from the inside?
Do you think the wallstreet puppetmaster care about you or your thoughts?

I dont think you understand the animal youre trying to bring down. If you did, your approach would be totally different (which is what ive been trying to illustrate).

Elect Ron Paul. Then get your notepad out but I'll do a short simple something for you.

Remove the power of the FED and stop printing money. Remove the buerocrats from Schools, Energy, Envioroment, Drug enforcement all needs to go to the STATES!!! Stregnthen property rights and the Gov't can raise money by selling some of the land they have been taking. Cancel andy and ALL DOEMSTIC DRONES and tear up the FAA rules that you can have them! Turn the FEMA CAMPS into the new INTERANTIONAL BANKERS SAFE PLACE! Take all Rothchild, Rockefellers, and the other 11 Bloodlins resources with the same military they have taken it all from the US, Africa, and more.

You get rid if 40-50% of most agencies, espicially EPA, FDA, DEA, ATF,DoE, EoED, etc......Then you reduced income taxes as much as possible. This takes away from the corporate workforce and allows more people to do whatevery they create and keep most of their money. You start up small pot farmers, Hemp farmers, Aquaponics farmers, Small & Med chicken/pig/cow/goat/ all over this great country. You

 

[itisme]

I am not kidding and I knew some people would get butthurt over my opinions. The evidence is out there of his masonic ties. Also look at his wife and daughters masonic ties. Its out there, do you own DD.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn174/AboveTopSecretDotCom/image_hand_sign_ron_paul_01.jpg

It is funny that you think the ptb would ever allow a real contender to run. It is all fake and it is all for show.

We got 30 years proof and you post some awekward handshake as your DD!!!! Butthurt would be if you gave us some good evidence and made us actually think it could be true....I've done my DD and Ross Perot fit the bill of what you claim far better than RON PAUL as he has always been PRO GUN! I have heard they do hiave implants like what you say but You aint offered one decent bit off evidence.

You're just sound like others in Ron Paul Gear handing out fake DELEGATE SLIPS and stealing votes, closing Delegations when Ron Paul folks gain legal control!

We need a lot more than one link to a stupid handshake. I"ve hand 100's of awkward handshakes and I've never shaken as many hands as Ron Paul.

 

[SpasticGramps]

I certainly haven't discounted the possibility that Paul is another face to control the rising anti-statist opposition. He's a career politician, his son is the benefactor of nepotism, he is the only true conservative voice (classic liberal) that is in power, he and Romney are admittedly "good friends" and a few other things.

What concerns me the most is the how many view him with messiah like qualities. It reminds me of how the progressives viewed Obama and the Neo-Cons Bush. There is a cult of personality problem in the US politics which I believe is prevalent in statist controlled societies drowning in propaganda.

There was no other person in this thread that was more rah rah Ron Paul than me, but over the course of time I've had to rethink, evaluate, and temper that. I agree with most of what he says (I'm certainly a sound money classic liberal), but have my concerns.

Lenin once said.

“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” ― Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

The bourgeoisie aren't dumb and have been around for a very long time. Every time the people get restless the uprising is somehow co opted and led right back into the controlled establishment hive mentality (read Tea Party, OWS, 1960's etc).

At this juncture I've become completely disillusioned with American politics. I look at the Middle East and Europe collapsing and know we will inevitably burn too. Everything between here and there is bread and circuses to keep the masses entertained until the final curtain falls instead of really revolting IMO.

I will cast my vote for Ron Paul, but am under no illusions that things will actually change until the bond market and interest rates shove real change down our collective throats. Until then I will continue to pursue developing my land to be as off grid as possible.

My tin foil hat is bigger than yours.

 

[zymos]

Hey itisme, are you sure you meant to leave me positive rep when you sent me this:

"(Rant removed) "


Cause it kind of sounds like you were a wee bit angry and meant to give me negative rep.
But who knows, maybe you meant it as a little love note?

Thanks, that was sweet of you...

 

[medmaker420]

I actually got my ballot today and just put in my vote for Ron Paul

Ron Paul for President!

Romney can go... well everyone knows where romney can go.

 

[itisme]

he and Romney are admittedly "good friends" and a few other things.

What concerns me the most is the how many view him with messiah like qualities

I am not sure that him a Romney are "Good Friends" as it is that Ron Paul is being nice. He is a nice guy.

He is viewed as a Mesiah in a joking manner to some respects for exactly what you stated in the first of yoru statement about him being the only "True Conservative". The media is lying so much for us to get the word out it just sounds like we are preaching sometimes. He really does "SEEM" to be a Great Man and I don't mind calling him that. I hear great thrown out all the time for FB, Baseball, Basketball, and so now I have grown some I am happy to have a "CAREER POLITICIAN" that I do believe in.


I have considered what KAKA stated when I heard it long ago and only asked him for some evidence. I have posted page upon page of why I support RP and I am a recent convert....Not from 2008. I have been asleep far to long and I now see it as my duty to inform others. I did not blindly support Ron Paul. I looked into why he wanted to close most of the EPA, FDA, IRS, FED, DoED, DoE. etc. etc.....I don't see him as a GOD and I don't think anybody really does. HE IS A GOOD AND HONEST POLITICIAN, from what I can gather. That is far more precious that a 2 TON DIAMOND in this DAY AND AGE!

 

[greenmatter]

the old spy novels used to call the soviet political system an "apparatus". maybe because it sounds like a big evil mindless machine that does not really give a shit what it rolls over or destroys as a means to an end

if RP wins this he is going to be up against an apparatus that has resisted any positive changes really well for decades ........ i wish the man well and i hope he can change the way things are run.

then i see what the guy would be up against and wonder if we won't see RP in paintings hanging out with ms. monroe, james dean, elvis and the rest of the fairy tales who were lucky enough to crash before they burned

or he will pander to both red and blue and accomplish nothing ......... which seems to be the trend in washington anyway

 

[SpasticGramps]

I am not sure that him a Romney are "Good Friends" as it is that Ron Paul is being nice. He is a nice guy.

He is viewed as a Mesiah in a joking manner to some respects for exactly what you stated in the first of yoru statement about him being the only "True Conservative". The media is lying so much for us to get the word out it just sounds like we are preaching sometimes. He really does "SEEM" to be a Great Man and I don't mind calling him that. I hear great thrown out all the time for FB, Baseball, Basketball, and so now I have grown some I am happy to have a "CAREER POLITICIAN" that I do believe in.


I have considered what KAKA stated when I heard it long ago and only asked him for some evidence. I have posted page upon page of why I support RP and I am a recent convert....Not from 2008. I have been asleep far to long and I now see it as my duty to inform others. I did not blindly support Ron Paul. I looked into why he wanted to close most of the EPA, FDA, IRS, FED, DoED, DoE. etc. etc.....I don't see him as a GOD and I don't think anybody really does. HE IS A GOOD AND HONEST POLITICIAN, from what I can gather. That is far more precious that a 2 TON DIAMOND in this DAY AND AGE!

The messiah reference was figuratively of course. There is no question that there is a cult of personality around Ron Paul though. Something I view as dangerous.

He is certainly the ONE politician that seems really genuine and unowned by corporatist (fascist) state. It almost seems like it's too good to be true and you know what they say about that.

Being that he is just the one man whose platform stands against the machine I believe that he would be hopeless to fix it because we are so far down the rabbithole. Even though he is a doctor, a doctor does no good when the patient is already dead.

My hope is that when the game is up and interest rates end us as they are ending Europe the classic liberal sound money platform will be something we can rebuild from. I know that sounds pessimistic and it is. Americans have failed to curtail the expansion of the statist (and now bankrupt) empire for 100 years. I see no evidence that we will be able to do so before bond markets have their way with us.

 

[dagnabit]

Hey itisme, are you sure you meant to leave me positive rep when you sent me this:

"Fuck you! I'd be done beat your ass if you kept up you weak ass insults. You are a ZOINIST WARMONGER COCKERSUCKER BITCH!"

Cause it kind of sounds like you were a wee bit angry and meant to give me negative rep.
But who knows, maybe you meant it as a little love note?

Thanks, that was sweet of you...

careful zym..
the tou and whatnot

 

[itisme]

Yep. It is against the rules to post FEEDBACK. You violated the TAO but I am glad you shared it and I hope they boot you for a week. If you've been a good little troll they may only warn you and make you remove it, if they don't!

 

[itisme]

The messiah reference was figuratively of course. There is no question that there is a cult of personality around Ron Paul though. Something I view as dangerous.

He is certainly the ONE politician that seems really genuine and unowned by corporatist (fascist) state. It almost seems like it's too good to be true and you know what they say about that.

Being that he is just the one man whose platform stands against the machine I believe that he would be hopeless to fix it because we are so far down the rabbithole. Even though he is a doctor, a doctor does no good when the patient is already dead.

My hope is that when the game is up and interest rates end us as they are ending Europe the classic liberal sound money platform will be something we can rebuild from. I know that sounds pessimistic and it is. Americans have failed to curtail the expansion of the statist (and now bankrupt) empire for 100 years. I see no evidence that we will be able to do so before bond markets have their way with us.

He isn't that alone as Tom DeMint, Rand, and a lot of others have backed him. I am sure many more would if they had any balls, but once he gains control they can speak more truth.

I am a beleiver in Ron Paul but trust me....It's not blindly!